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Is James Harden already the 2nd best Rocket of all-time?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by samtaylor, Nov 14, 2016.

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Where does James Harden rank in Rockets history?

  1. 2nd

    108 vote(s)
    55.7%

  2. 3rd

    61 vote(s)
    31.4%

  3. 4th

    12 vote(s)
    6.2%

  4. 5th

    7 vote(s)
    3.6%

  5. Outside top 5

    6 vote(s)
    3.1%
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  1. samtaylor

    samtaylor Member

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    Hakeem Olajuwon is obviously number 1, and Harden would need two titles to just be in the conversation. But after #34, you can make the argument that James Harden is already the best Houston Rocket ever.

    His resume:
    • 4 seasons (and 9 games)
    • Made the playoffs every season
    • 2 playoff series wins
    • WCF appearance
    • 4 all-star appearances
    • 27 ppg 6.8 apg 5.4 rpg
    • 10 triple doubles
    • 3 player of the month awards
    • 10 player of the week awards
    • 4 top-10 MVP finishes (8th, 5th, 2nd, 9th)
    • Three 50 point games

    Compared to Calvin Murphy:
    • 13 seasons
    • 17.9 ppg 4.4 apg 1.3 rpg
    • 1 all-star appearance
    • 6 playoff series wins
    • 1 Finals appearance
    Moses Malone:
    • 6 seasons
    • 24 ppg 15 rpg 1.5 apg 1.6 blocks
    • 5 all-star appearances
    • 5 playoff series wins
    • 1 Finals appearance
    • 2 MVPs, 3 other top-10 finishes
    Ralph Sampson:
    • 5 seasons
    • 19.7 ppg 10.5 rpg 2.7 apg 1.9 bpg
    • 4 all-star apperances
    • 4 playoff series wins
    • 1 Finals appearance
    • 1 top-10 MVP finish
    Yao Ming:
    • 7 seasons (and 5 games in 2010-11)
    • 8 all-star appearances
    • 19.0 ppg 9.2 rpg 1.9 bpg 1.6 apg
    • 1 playoff series win
    • 6 player of the week awards
    Elvin Hayes:
    • 7 seasons
    • 4 all-star appearances
    • 20.6 ppg 12.2 rpg 1.9 apg
    • 0 playoff sereis wins
    Clyde Drexler:
    • 4 seasons
    • 2 all-star appearances
    • 19.0 ppg 6.1 rpg 5.4 apg
    • 1 championship
    • 7 playoff series wins
    Rudy Tomjanovich:
    • 11 seasons
    • 17.4 ppg 8.1 rpg 2.0 apg
    • 5 all-star appearances
    • 6 playoff series wins
    • 1 Finals appearance

    Right now I would put him 3rd behind The Dream and Moses Malone. Moses got to the Finals and won 2 MVPs. Where do you think James Harden ranks?
     
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  2. ricardo1979

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    Dream
    Moses
    Harden

    By seasons end at this rate he will be. I still have Moses number 2 for now.
     
    #2 ricardo1979, Nov 14, 2016
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    This.
     
    #3 TheMystery008, Nov 14, 2016
  4. ISOBall

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    Corey Brewer gets no respect around here..
     
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    Well, he might almost be the most hated? He will get a list or a poll really soon.
     
    #5 Rockets4lf, Nov 14, 2016
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    behind legends like moochie and reese gaines.
     
    #6 Jontro, Nov 14, 2016
  7. Batman Jones

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    I don't think Harden's had the second most impactful record with the Rockets (that's Malone, sure) but I do think he's surpassed Malone as the second best player we've had here.

    I don't feel strongly about it and wouldn't argue too hard against someone that believed that was still Malone's spot and that Harden was #3.

    Certainly no other Rocket but Malone threatens to push Harden out of the second all-time best Rocket slot.
     
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  8. ThatBoyNick

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    Hard to compete with two MVPs

    Harden 3rd behind Moses imo.
     
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    Damn no mention of t-mac?
     
    #9 Fulgore, Nov 14, 2016
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    You had to summon "him".
     
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    gotta go with Moses at 2....
     
    #11 kjayp, Nov 14, 2016
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    1. Dream
    2. Jerry Lin
    3. Malone
    4. T-Mac
    5. Harden
     
    #12 FTW Rockets FTW, Nov 14, 2016
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    harden has scored the most points in the NBA since 2011

    THE MAN IS A MACHINE, NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN HE SAYS **** IT, I WANNA LEAD THE NBA IN ASSISTS.. he is def number 2 behind dream
     
    #13 HardenTime, Nov 14, 2016
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    lol :D
     
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    Harden Ahead of T-Mac as a Rockets player.
    So, who came up with "Jerry Lin" and what does it mean?
     
    #15 RockWest, Nov 14, 2016
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    He's 3rd.

    Anybody that said 2nd: y'all are idiots. Calling a spade a spade here. Y'all stupid.

    Personally, I feel disrespected that Matt Maloney has not been given any consideration.
     
    #16 jbasket, Nov 14, 2016
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    this has to make him the best player of all time.
     
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    Top 10, somewhere behind...

    Dan Langhi
    Billy Spanoulis
    Chase Budinger
    Chandler Parsons


    DD
     
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    Chris Jent is in there somewhere
     
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    I think a 2 time mvp who made it to the finals should be ranked higher.
     
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