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Is it time to begin Impeachment hearings for Bush?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewYorker, Jul 8, 2007.

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  1. NewYorker

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    Half of American (45% supporting, 46% against) feel it's time for the House to begin the process of impeachment for Bush....and 54% feel it's time to do the same for Cheney.

    http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm/fuseaction/viewItem/itemID/16415

    That's pretty incredible. And I have to say, I now favor impeaching Bush.

    They say impeachment is only for high crimes and misdemnors. I think Bush has committed a high crime against the American people. With lies and his gross incompetence which has led to the compromising of security.

    The war in Iraq has caused dire security risks as shown by the terror plots in Londan - guys who were sent from Iraq. Bush has unwittingly created a terrorist network in Iraq...and it's clear his administration was involved in leaking names, spinning evidence, and is not cooperating with the laws of our nation by refusing to answer Congress and the checks and balances of power over the executive branch.

    For the sake of keeping future presidents in check and maintaining the health of our gov't, we must do everything now to impeach Bush. It seems his own party is beginning to sour on him as well as the American public.

    Good riddence you bumbling fool of a man. You are the most shameful president in our nation's history.
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I think that congress needs to step up the pressure to get the troops home, that is more important than Impeaching the moron in the whitehouse......

    Because if Bush steps down the situation worsens.

    DD
     
  3. NewYorker

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    If Bush goes, Cheney would go as well. They are both complicit.
     
  4. RocketMan Tex

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    If they get Cheney out of there first, Bush will topple. He won't have a leg to stand on. That being said, it ain't going to happen, simply because the "opposition" has no balls. And I agree with DD...bringing the troops home from Iraq is first and foremost. But that isn't going to happen either.
     
  5. ROXRAN

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    The neo-dems in the Senate and House ain't gonna do sheeeeeeeeeet... :D
     
  6. jo mama

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    1) lying our country into an illegal war which has led to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent people.

    2) fake news stories and propaganda (armstrong williams, anyone?).

    3) torture and authorization of acts which are against u.s. federal law.

    4) illegal wiretapping of american citizens

    the bush administration is guilty of all this. impeach the criminals and put their sorry asses on trial immediately! the president is not above the law and if they are allowed to get away with everything that they have done it will do far more long term damage to this country than to just ride out the next 18 months. these criminals have set a very dangerous precedent which needs to be rebuked.
     
  7. El_Conquistador

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    If polls were the standard, then the Democrat-controlled Congress should be kicked out first. They have the lower approval rating...
     
  8. jo mama

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    their approval ratings are low b/c they are not doing what the american people voted them in office to do, which is end bush's war and put a check on the criminal administration.

    if they continue to act in this manner than they will be voted out of office.
     
  9. Sishir Chang

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    I'm undecided. GW Bush has certainly done many things that IMO are much worse than what Clinton or Andrew Johnson did and close to Nixon. Those given impeachment proceedings are ultimately political and will practically paralyze both the Executive and Legislative branches. During Clinton's impeachment the country was in the midst of prosperity and at peace but there are many issues that I would rather not see two thirds of the government unable to address because they are tied up by impeachment.

    Also GW Bush will be gone in about a year and a half and in the meantime is held in check by a Democratic Congress that is gradually picking up Republicans running away from the President. It might make more sense to work toward building up veto proof majorities on issues and check the President rather than go through impeachment.
     
  10. NewYorker

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    Clinton, despite never being found guilty of committing purgery, was impeached for that reason after a lengthy witch-hunt by house republicans.

    Lil'Kim and Martha Stewart went to jail for the crimes they committed.

    So did Paris Hilton.

    All of the folks Clinton pardoned who had been convicted of crimes had served some jail time.

    Scooter Libby was told that one day of jail for committing perjury in front of a grand jury was excessive.

    Clearly - Bush pardoned him to keep Libby from talking. DUH! This is the foulest of foul.

    It's too much. The lying, the misdirection to go to war in Iraq, the loss of credibility our country has suffered, the arrogance, the mess with FEMA, the appointment of Gonazales and the firings, Rumsfield, prison torture by Americans, Gitmo, the ongoing quagmire that is Iraq, a burgenioning deficit, the secret wire-tapping, leaking info about CIA agent's spouses because they opposed your policy, Paul Wolfowitz, every child left behind, firing generals who told him he was making a mistake, secret "energy" conferences with oil companies, fear-mongering, in-adequate battle armor and equipment for troops, linking 9/11 to iraq, No WMD's found, Ashcrofts proposing to slash counterterrorism by 1/4 BEFORE 9/11, fraud by Halliburton - which CHeney holds stock in, letting Ken Lay help write the Bush Admin's energy policy, the Social Security surplus - which he promised to protect, is now all gone, prevention of stem-cell research - putting religion over lives, gutting clean-air standards, and the immense secrecy. Looking like a deer staring into headlights and then running away like cockroaches during 9/11

    Enough. Please, not a thing positive can happen to this country so long as this sick cancer, this bafoon of a man, this dark plaque of a vice president. These two people have duped us all. They are festering wounds on our nations. Republicans, democrats, liberals, and conservatives....we have to get rid of these two men. Forget about where you stand or loyalities. They are poisonous folks.

    Calling for their ouster is a civic duty at this point. The war won't end until we rid ourselves of these men. They belong in prison. They are cowards.

    I give our congress a 0% approval rating until they impeach these losers out of office. They are traitors.
     
  11. ryan17wagner

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    If Bush were to be impeached, who would be the one to start the proceedings?
     
  12. Baqui99

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    Damn. Helluva post.
     
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    As I understand it, the House of Representatives.
     
  14. dntrwl

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    When we get rid of Bush we're just going to elect another person that hides the truth, lies, and does stupid things based on their theory. It's just the way of nominees getting money, no one wants to support someone with a different approach, thank all the 65+ yr old AARP people that have been voting the same party their entire life for that, and everyone under 25 for not :( .
     
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    I voted undecided because I don't know his lame duck mentality. If we see more pardons/commutings for his cronies under the rationale that he has nothing else to lose, then get rid of the sob immediately.

    The system is broken. A consecutive impeachment would be like that low point before friends start staging an intervention.
     
  16. No Worries

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    IMHO impeachment of a sitting president does more harm than good for all parties.

    What I would like to see is Bush held accountable for all of his misdeeds and forced to change his dictatorial ways. No more illegal NSA spying. No more bogus claims of executive privilege. No more signing statements. No more endless war in Iraq. No more enemy combatants at Gitmo. No more renditions. No more torture. No more Geneva Conventions violations. etc.

    The path of least resistance will be to play ball with the Democratic Congress. Bush is one stuborn, stupid f*ck, so in the end Congress may very well impeach is sorry *ss. It will be his own damn fault.
     
  17. jo mama

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    you answered your own question - do you really think bush will change his ways? as you said, he is one spoiled, stubborn, stupid child (i added a word and changed another). he will not voluntarily change and he must be held accountable.

    we cannot ride out another 18 months w/ these criminals. it is all in the constitution - if you commit crimes you are subject to impeachment - i dont think anyone would say at this point that this administration has NOT broken the law and committed a vast array of felonies.

    impeachment would be for the good of this country and not following thru w/ it would set a very dangerous precedent for future presidents - what these criminals have done must be rebuked or else the next president will pull the same crap. nobody is above the law and if you break the law you need to be held accountable for it.

    sadly, it seems that democrats are more concerned with setting the table for the next election than doing the right thing for this country.
     
  18. JuanValdez

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    I've wanted to impeach him for a long time now. But, I think people hopping on the bandwagon are not so much upset about crimes he's committed but about his failures. If Iraq was now a peaceful bastion of democracy in the middle-east, I don't think many people would be calling for impeachments because he lied, tortured innocents, encroached on our civil liberties, and violated the soveriegnty of foreign allies to get us there. I have trouble aligning myself on this issue with people who want to prosecute for the wrong reasons.
     
  19. jo mama

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    being a failure is not an impeachable offense - committing felonies are though and this administration has committed a multitude of them.

    if these criminals are not held accountable then future presidents will do the same if not push it further - that is why they need to be impeached.
     
  20. trustme

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    Would it not be selfish on our side if we pull back the troops right now? It would exacerbate the situation by bringing more instability to the whole region, not just Iraq. And if that does happen, then we will have to bear the burden of all the havoc it will create.
    Anyway, if Bush and Cheney do get impeached and consequently get removed from office before their term ends, wouldn't it mean that Rice becomes president?
     

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