Is franchise worth a #1

Although I think a backcourt of Cat and Steve has too much of a shoot first mentality, I still wouldn't trade Francis. If either one of those 2 get traded it would be Cat and that would have to be if Francis would still sign with us (a big if). Steve will be here as long as we can keep him here. I don't think everyone is unhappy with him, but rather disappointed in this year. He's been hurt with his ankle and the migraines have affected his play, plus we were hoping he would make strides as a distributor (which has been interrupted because he has few to no options to distribute to due to the injuries to Mo and Rice along with having an undeveloped EG and useless offensive force in Cato). I think we'll try to get a solid 3 that can play D and give us a better option than what we have along with hoping that EG can develop some post up moves. If that happens then there is no excuse why Francis can't be an 8+ apg type guy. If he still can't be a distributor then he will have to realize that the 2 is the place for him to be.

 

what makes jason williams who has yet to play 1 minute of pro ball better than steve francis who by the way started the all-star game this year? what's the rush to shake up this team after an injury filled season?

 

Personally, I think Jason Williams is overrated, ESPECIALLY on this board. He's not the next coming of MJ, he's not even the next coming of Steve Francis. I'd say he'll be Mike Bibby with 4 more ppg and 2 fewer assists. I don't think his college success will translate into the NBA as much as the narrowsighted Dukies on this board would have you believe. Furthermore, I think he gets a lot of credit for the players around him. It isn't like he singlehandedly created Duke's success.

 

Jason Williams is the most overrated player in the NCAA. the best PG in the draft is Dajuan Wagner, AMAZING! Francis is way better the JWill. (GET WILCOX!!!!)

 

EG#1,

You think Griffin is #1 but you want to draft Wilcox? Isn't that a conflict of interest? If Griffin really is #1 (or even worthy of being your screenname) then shouldn't he eventually take over as our starting 4? And if so, what the heck are we going to do with Wilcox? I guess we can feel pretty confident that if Eddie gets hurt we'll have the best backup PF in the game, but I think we have bigger holes to fill since our team will consist of Cato and Rice in our starting lineup next year.

 

ricky, I don't think he was the worse guy there. He had migraines. Besides, it seemed as if Duncan and co. froze him out. Steve had some nice assists in the first 2 minutes.

 

Some people have a lot of nerve to shiit on Steve Francis like that. Yeah, he's no Payton, yeah, he's no Kidd. But he is a damn good player, he love playing for the Rockets, and he is a MAJOR part of our team. Damn, some people need to give a little more respect to the man whom the Rockets live and die depending on.

 

First of all, Stevie couldn't do as well as usual this year because of the migraines. You guys know that. Of course he's in a shooting slump; you try shooting 50% with a migraine. Second, our backcourt wouldn't necessarily be score-oriented if there was someone to pass to. You want Thomas to score 25 a game? Maybe Cato? Griffin (well, maybe in a few years, not now)? Francis is a proven star. It's ridiculous to think of trading him for a rookie.

 

i never said he was the best point guard in the west, but i'm sure you can at least agree he's all-star calibur. what he did in the game means absolutely nothing, migraine or not.

i don't think williams is a true point guard at all, hell he shoots more than steve. he'll probably be a really good player but i also see the same things in him that so many people like to b**** on steve about. so that's why i wonder why it would make sense to trade someone who has already proven himself as a stud for someone who MIGHT get close to that level.

 

Williams is 10X's the player Bibby ever was.

I think Williams is a great player who won't win, until he plays smarter.

Nonetheless, he is a much better player than Bibby.

Bibby is now a role player. Williams will be a go-to guy.

Williams has more range on his jumper (Bibby never really got adjusted to the NBA 3). Not to mention that Williams is the best finishing PG in a very long time. His tremendous strength allows him to finish layups that most PGs wouldn't dare take. Moreover, he doesn't get phased by anything.

 

Jason Williams is Steve Francis. Has anyone ever seen them in the same room? I don't think they played against each other in college, did they? Hmm....

 

kidrock8, Bibby isn't a role player at all. I live in Sacramento and see most of the Kings games; he's our third-best scorer behind Stojakovic and Webber! Besides that, he's a point guard. Points are supposed to pass, and that's what he does. Stockton doesn't score a lot, is he a role player? The reason Bibby isn't racking up assists like a madman is that EVERYONE on the Kings is so good at passing! Webber and Divac are two of the best passing big men in the game! Don't talk about him being a role player just because he doesn't average 25 a game.

And as I said before, ricky812, Francis WOULD have high assists numbers if he had some people to pass to. Who do you want shooting: Francis, or Cato, Thomas, and Morris? Thought so.

 

NO...Francis isn't worth a #1. I may be new here but i know this, Jason Williams isn't worth trading Francis. I live in SC, therefore i've gotten a chance to watch Williams many times, hes not quite where he needs to be yet. He has the potential, but we haven't seen him play 1 NBA minute yet. We have a proven PG & leader in Stevie and we need to stick with him, let him get healthy, and watch him turn into one of the best in the L. If anything we need to fix our frontcourt, not the backcourt.

 

ricky812, that would be for two reasons:

1. Andre Miller is nowhere close to Stevie as a scorer; he should not be the #1 scorer on the team. Steve is one of the best slashers in the game today, so it would be foolish to squander his ability.

2. NO ONE ELSE ON CLEVELAND CAN PASS, SO THEIR ENTIRE OFENSE IS BASED ON MILLER trying to hit his teammates for layups, dumping it in to Ilgausakas, or passing to Murray and Person for jumpers. How many people in their starting lineup can pass? Let's look. Ilgauskas no, Hill no, Murray sorta, and Person no. Miller gets a lot of assists because that is the best way to score, since they DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A BIGTIME SCORER LIKE STEVIE.

Bibby is excused from having to average 10 assists because everyone on his team is a ridiculously good passer. Stevie is excused because he has to be the #1 scorer.

By the way, "most sorriest" is a little redundant, don't you think?

 

Francis is worth a #1 pick, but a #1 pick isn't worth Francis.