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Is Bush The Worst President...In The Last 50 Years?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Almu, Mar 2, 2006.

  1. Almu

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    Man, this dude is turning into a big joke in front of the world.

    Let me start by saying that I love Bill Clinton. Despite all his hijinks in the White House which is whatever you want to make it out to be, the man left with a near 60% approval rating and continues to be the most popular person on the planet. Many says he is like President of the World or something. Loved by many. Really hated by a few. Ask Bush I.

    I voted for Gore in 2000. Thought that he would carry the Clinton vision forward. The whole economy shindig was what really liked. He lost in a weird sort of way. But I am patriotic and I went along with Bush. Then, Sept 11th happened. And everyone knows I am a New York guy through and through now. Seeing what I saw that day changed alot of lives including mine, no doubt. He stood on that pile of rubble with the fireman and declared that the people that did Sept 11th "would hear all of us soon".

    A monumental moment in history. And I fell in love with Bush. Through and through I supported him. Left and right I believed in his messages about terrorism, tax cuts, social security, etc.

    Then, the Iraq War happened. First chink in the armor. But still, I voted for him with full confidence in 2004. Screw Kerry, I thought. I need a man in that office and thats that. Bush, I thought, had the world on their toes and the terrorist hiding in caves.

    The economy is in pretty good shape. I work in the greatest city in the world. So does the wife. We make a very good living at what we do. My kids are healthy. In great schools. WTF, right?

    WRONG!

    Despite all the scandals, all the lies, all the Halliburton crap, all the manipulation, I was there, faithful and believing. My confidence was eroding for sure. My understanding was eroding for sure. I kept asking myself is this guy an idiot or am I just blind to it because of Sept 11th. Turns out that its all CRAP! And I finally woke up.

    He was wrong on practically everything he preached. He looks to be also wrong on Iraq when all is said and done. Bin Laden is still giggling at us in his cave. The world hates our guts. Every where I travel, I hear the same crap:

    "Americans are great people. But..." and then the Bush remark.

    The world have lost so much respect its hard to believe that I never caught on for some reason.

    What made me finally wake up was the Katrina video where the MORON was told it would happen. And did NOTHING about it but probably give that stupid smirk and say we were prepared? Why not OVER plan just to be safe.

    When there is a terrorist threat or any threat of any kind in NYC, you see the ATLAS team of security out in force in the city. Could be a total hoax. Doesn't matter. They are deployed. Could be some nut standing naked in Time Square yelling he has a bomb on him. Doesn't matter. They are deployed. You know what the mayor says? Better to be prepared than not. Better to spend 2 million dollars a day for a hoax than 2 billion dollars an hour for a total disaster!

    My God. I feel ashamed. I feel guilty that I believed so blindly. And to think there are THREE years left of this bullsh*t?

    Wow.

    One thing I do hear when I travel is this. The greatest nation on EARTH is still great DESPITE the leadership. The people make the nation. And thank God for that!
     
  2. gifford1967

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    Great post almu! Honest and sincere.

    And I'll take it as a partial answer to this question posed in Batman's thread.

    Now get to work!
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    I have to say it is a great post. It is refreshing for someone to look at the evidence before them, and form opinions based on that.

    It is different than someone who forms an opinion and then tries to twist away or ignor evidence.
     
  5. jo mama

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    worst president in the last 50 years or worst president ever?
     
  6. thegary

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    bush has metastisized beyond the oval office and into the good hearts and minds of the american people. it has taken the radiation of innumerous facts, outlining the lies, the corruption and the utter ineptitude, to allow people to see the light. now that the cancer has begun to ebb, it's time to remove the tumor.






    otherwise he's a pretty good president.
     
  7. MadMax

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    As much as Bush I've been disappointed with the Republican Congress. The bankruptcy reform is the thing that kills me the most from them. They handed the reigns of government over to banks, ignoring the screams from creditors' attorneys, debtors' attorney and bankruptcy judges who were nearly unanimous in their criticism of this ridiculous piece of garbage disguised as law.

    I've been disappointed with every politician I've ever voted for at the federal level.
     
  8. reggietodd

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    This Republican agrees with you.
     
  9. thegary

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    i'm glad
     
  10. mleahy999

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    Yes. I still can't get over the fact that out of 100 million eligible people for president, it came down to this clown. This was the best guy for the job? And his dad was president and his brother might be in the future? What are we: North Korea or Saudi Arabia that we pass along head of state titles within the same family?

    He has been weighed, measured and found lacking in every aspect of leadership qualities, and yet he has carte blanche. I can't see anything redeeming from him. He sucks.
     
  11. thegary

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    dude, it's freakin' hard to find men who don't like blowjobs.
     
  12. Dubious

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    Far be it from me to defend George W, but you have to admit he fell right into the middle of a ****storm when he got elected. You can try to imagine what his presidency might have looked like without 9/11 or without Katrina.

    FEMA under Clinton did a crappy job with Hurricane Andrew and it wasn't the urban nightmare Katrina was. And there was no way in hell Karl Rove came into office thinking he was going to take a balanced budget and turn it into a deficit that would cripple the next three generations, they were supposed to be conservatives.

    I was all for overtrowing Saddam, I believe it is the duty fo all free people to overthrow tyrants. I would have shamed the free world into supporting though and I just couldn't have ever conceived the unintended consequences. I should have known that people who believe in their own self-rightiousness can't be trusted to be reasonable.
     
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    lets have a no confidence vote.

    oh wait.
     
  14. rhadamanthus

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    Bush makes me sick. He's uneducated and ignorant, yet arrogant and stubborn. He's a politician through and through - no desire to do or say anything that won't aid his image, no respect for the truth, no concept of the future consequences of his actions, and an incredible lack of care for anyone not a high-dollar supporter. He counts on misinformed and illogical partisans for support, confident that he can manipulate them for his own ends - I guess that's more the work of Rove, but I digress.
     
  15. rimrocker

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    Andrew happened during the administration of George H. W. Bush.
     
  16. No Worries

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    If you are a Republican (particularly those who held their noses and voted for W in 2004), you really need to send The Republican Party a big time message in 2006 by holding your nose and voting for a straight Democrat ticket. If the Republican margins in both houses do not shrink across the 2006 elections, W and his 34% approval rating is going to see that as a mandate.
     
  17. No Worries

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    You forgot: lazy and Machiavelian.
     
  18. nyquil82

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    I had a similar experience. I voted Bush in 2000 and thought he did a good job in Afghanistan, but when he suddenly changed his focus on Iraq, for what I thought were bogus reasons with shoddy backup, I began to lose trust in his actions. Once I started questioning his actions and motivations, I realized this was a man who was a chronic liar with a twisted worldview who did not look out for the interest of Americans, or at least the American's outside his mind.
     
  19. rhadamanthus

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    lol.

    The crazy thing is that, if the republican party was actually fiscally conservative and really the "party of small government" I would be a republican!

    Instead they're the party of bigotry disguised as ass-backwards social conservatism, irresponsible defecit spending to aid corporations, and foolish neoconservative "democracy through war" ideology.

    Too bad the democrats are no better. Choice my ass.
     
  20. rhester

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    Well I voted for Bush. I don't have a good reason for it.

    I believe very rich and powerful people make decisions and Presidents do what they are told.

    I am of the opinion that both parties are controlled.

    And my opinion doesn't mean much.

    But if I am at least partly right he is doing a bang up job for whoever is pulling the strings.

    I would be labelled a 'conspiratist'-(like the Mel Gibson movie) as far as viewing history.
    I don't think things happen by accident.
    I am not an activist though (polically), It is what it is.
     

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