How valid is this? I havent heard anything about it. What would this do to the economy? I would be shocked if Congress abolished taxes and it would great for my paycheck but how would it effect our government and economy?
Yeah, I'm sure they're going to say that taxes are illegal. And yes, exactly where would all the money to run everything come from.
i agree with what i've read of their points from a legal and philosophical point of view....however, before they make any transition, they better have laws in place for a consumption tax immediately!!!
So which tired argument will be trotted out this time? Time and again, various groups have attempted to "prove" the IRS or the Income Tax was illegal. The argument gets rejected in court every time. Just by scanning through a couple of things, I notice some factual errors (For example, they insist that the 1st Amendment requires the Government to answer a redress of grievances. The actual Amendment only says that citizens have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. It says nothing about the Government having to answer). Looking at their brief mentions of their claims against the legality of the Income Tax, I see that they are tredding on ground that has already been tred upon. The 16th Amendment being improperly ratified was explored and rejected by the courts several times. The idea that the Income Tax return is a violation of the 5th Amendment right against self-incrimination was decided in 1927. Courts have repeatedly followed that decision in arguments since. The idea that since there is no specific law that requires a person to file a return has been contradicted by numerous court rulings that note that the US Code was passed by Congress and signed by the President and is amended by Congress from time to time. It's not only "laws" that have the force of law. The other two arguments made on the page I saw would not invalidate the income tax itself, but are complaints about how the IRS does business (arguments about the way they conduct seizures and the like. That's a procedural issue, and I think a good many people would agree that the IRS often does business in a poor manner. Whether that rises to be violations of the law would have to be decided on a case-by-case basis). Whether they make these arguments in court or in front of Congress or on their front stoop, they routinely fail. The income tax has been found to be legal despite every argument made (and every argument has been made at this point). There is no way it's going to be repealed.
The Income Tax has not been with us from the beginning, therefore it was created by law. Laws change when a justifiable reason is found. It is not inviolate.
And I'll applaud when the welfare rolls shrink significantly. People who can will find work-- they'll have to. The truly needy will be propped up by some government service and largely supported by volunteer agencies. The government will have income, it just won't remain the money hog it has become.
mrpaige -- have some optimism!! gr81 -- they're not trying to abolish taxation in general...just income taxation.
