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Iraq Poll

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by treeman, Oct 26, 2001.

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If we are to discover that the anthrax is of Iraqi origin, what should we do?

  1. Nuke the fu*kers. All of 'em

    10 vote(s)
    28.6%
  2. Redirect our efforts from Afghanistan to Iraq militarily; leave the Taliban for now and remove Sadda

    1 vote(s)
    2.9%
  3. Continue our efforts against the Taliban and Al Qaeda, but limit them to Afghanistan for now

    13 vote(s)
    37.1%
  4. Forget the Taliban and lets take out Saddam

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Turn the issue over to the UN Security Council

    1 vote(s)
    2.9%
  6. Go to Afghanistan, set up a bonfire, sing "Koombiyah", and wait for Osama

    10 vote(s)
    28.6%
  1. treeman

    treeman Member

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    I feel that if we only take out bin Laden but leave Saddam then we have lost a war.
     
  2. Lynus302

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    I think we need to finish what they have started first.

    My vote:

    Quit playing by the rules, quit trying to not hurt anyone's feelings, and tell the Taliban if they don't want to die, then turn their asses and ALL of Al Queda over right f*cking NOW.

    Then go after Saddam.

    I agree, Saddam needs to be taken out. He should have been taken out the first time.
     
  3. treeman

    treeman Member

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    It's anonymous unless you respond, people. Vote. I am truly interested in what America will think about our war after Afghanistan. Anonymous unless you want to post... If you view it you can vote.

    Unless I neglected an option?

    (destroying Israel or Palestine is not a sensible option)
     
  4. treeman

    treeman Member

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    Well why don't you vote then, Lynus302? My poll doesn't accomplish anything unless people vote...
     
  5. Lynus302

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    I wouldn't want to start a war on two fronts (Afghanistan and Iraq). Historically speaking, that isn't a good idea.

    If we find that we need to go somewhere else due to the anthrax, then we turn up the heat to speed our process to the next target.
     
  6. Lynus302

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    I didn't vote because:

    Nuke the fu*kers. All of 'em
    -- I don't want to go nuclear. That's just something to terrible to think about unless it becomes absolutely the only option left to us.

    Redirect our efforts from Afghanistan to Iraq militarily; leave the Taliban for now and remove Saddam
    -- We need to get rid of both of them. No point in stopping one to start another. No point in giving them time to regroup, develop another strategy, find more caves to hide in, more women to beat, etc.

    Continue our efforts against the Taliban and Al Qaeda, but limit them to Afghanistan for now
    -- If we limit them to Afghanistan, we limit ourselves. I think we must keep looking, wherever that may be.

    Forget the Taliban and lets take out Saddam
    -- See answer above

    Turn the issue over to the UN Security Council
    -- I don't really know what this would accomplish. Care to enlighten me? I feel that, if anything, this would limit what we need to do to kill these bastards.

    Go to Afghanistan, set up a bonfire, sing "Koombiyah", and wait for Osama
    -- I'll leave this one for Glynch and the "others" to go hold their hands and blow their noses for them.
     
  7. treeman

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    I suppose I should have put "Other - post below"?

    Obviously there are more than 6 possibilities in this war. I'm asking if you had to pick one of these six, which would it be?
     
  8. Hydra

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    I voted for nukes because it was the only option in which we fought all of the enemies, I would prefer using conventional weapons though.
     
  9. treeman

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    Yeah, well thanks for voting anyway Hydra. I voted in the only other bloc that...

    Good Lord, is it just really late and no one's watching? or does no one really care about the war after Afghanistan? I guess some people still think it isn't going to happen.

    I voted Taliban now, Iraq later...
     
  10. Lynus302

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    We basically have the go-ahead from the UN to do what needs to be done, right?

    Okay.....I voted Taliban/Al Queda now, and Iraq IMMEDIATELY following. My vote assumes that we really turn up our efforts against Afghanistan in the event Iraq (or whoever) was responsible for the anthrax.
     
  11. treeman

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    "Go-Ahead"???

    We'll do it alone if necessary.

    Fortunately, the coalition includes Australian troops (very high quality troops, despite what Smeg tells you), Canadian troops (trained by US), Brits (SAS - nothing need be said)...

    With these three english-speaking allies... oh hell , has anyone wondered why the only "allies" are English-speakers? Kinda gets at that culture thing you have been yelling "racist" at me about...

    Funny thing they're the only ones to offer troops. And the Turks - the best example of Islamic secular statehood that there ever was. Ataturk was a hero, and many of you probably don't know why. The Turks have offered troops (via NATO Article 5) for Afghanistan, and have once again proven themselves good allies.

    The rest of the world can take a flying leap. No one else has really offered us anything else other than moral support.

    That's my observation, and my opinion.
     
  12. treeman

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    Why am I not surprised? No one understands the issue. I've been trying to tell you guys for weeks what we're up against, but does anyone listen? No. Al Qaeda and Saddam are right on one score: Americans are apathetic, and unlikely to respond to an attack. Just look at the way you guys have melted...

    You guys... Whimps.

    Unbelievably pussyfooted. You guys are pathetic. And you actually know who you are. That just makes it worse. Whimp, whimp, whimp. URWEK.

    Sign here to *all of your Constitutional Rights:

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    blah blah blah you sure are a courageous tough guy!

    Btw, who in the hell is this We and Our and Us you speak of?

    The real war seems to be running deep within your breasts and through your veins, not out there.

    don't go sounding the war cry man, especially when you are so confused.

    Bomb iraq?

    Are you really that insensitive to life?

    Do you sit at your computer chair with visions of toy soldiers at your ****ing command?

    Do you know what it is to live in agony and misery and hope that the next bomb or missile of human ingen****innuity doesn't take out your whole family?

    im tired of you gun ho cowards, your the biggest bunch of lifeless p*****s of all! '

    "um in my opinion?".

    Wow, Isn't it great to have an OPINION about bombing Iraq, sending sons and daugthers across your virtual map, and all that ****. Feel like a man bud, argh!

    good god, brutes are the more inteliigent species. Brutes kill but hell they don't know right from wrong. humans kill and know its wrong, but they make it right by covering it up with religion, patriotism, the moral sense, all that godamn hogwash, you know how it goes.


    A real man stands alone and sees the futility of picking and analyzing and mulling over all this chaos born out of mankinds confusion -- because he sees it in himself, hes to blame too. One realizes he took wrong turn some where along the line just like the rest of mankind. One knows there'll be more wars and more power grabbing untill he changes himself, fundamentally, eternally, until he gets to the heart of the matter the source of all this crap.

    Am i the only one that sees that this **** will never end unless we change ourselves, completely?

    Am I the only one that also feels were running out of time?
     
    #13 Rockettebustier, Oct 26, 2001
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  14. Gutter Snipe

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    Anyone who doesn't get the Kumbaya option needs to see that flash file. Does anyone have the link to it?
     
  15. RichRocket

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    I want to disrupt the Taliban in a major way and turn it over to the Northern Alliance to decimate them. Yeah, we have to be careful about who rises to power there, but NOW they know the power, might and resolve of the US and her military and probably the new regime will behave. If not.....

    Then I want to go after Saddam and Iraq. They are the stink behind much of this.
     
  16. ROXRAN

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    I voted! I voted! :D
     
  17. heypartner

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    I would vote for,

    Follow our Leaders in times of war.

    But you don't seem to be expressing that.

    I, as an individual, do not have the Intel-ligence to even opine an offering of strategy. treeman and Lynus: my approach is the fabric of the Army chain-of-command. When you are not in a need-to-know role, don't take a poll, just follow. In fact, this is also the fabric of many successful corporate organizations. They are not democracies.

    I have simple faith in leaders. Leaders make mistakes, which means I would, too. What is important is making sure the leaders are not abusing power for personal gain or to write autobiographies in their minds....that is, to make sure they don't act as individuals. I have complete faith in our President as an institution, Congress, the Cabinet, and the military chain of command to act with the integrity of our forefathers in major events of national security (and this is a major event). I have faith our leaders as a whole act with legitimate concern for the nation, its history and its future.

    I do not to devise my own strategies on how to deal with Osama bin Laden. That is not my role. I do not have the Intelligence.
     
  18. SamCassell

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    nevermind.
     
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    War is "won" by warriors
     
  20. RocksMillenium

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    The last thing I want to do is put oUr soldiers in danger but I'm curious, would you rather send sons and daughters to Iraq to stop this, or would you rather wait at home for Iraq to kill your sons and daughters with chemical and biological warfare? Because if Iraq is behind this and we sit on our @ss and do nothing then the real fun begins because thousands maybe millions of Americans will die by the boatloads from all kinds of disease, and other terrorist activities. When people say "we" they mean the Americans who died. Guess what, the soldiers aren't the only ones in danger, we ALL are. 6000 people were butchered, so obviously everybody is fair game. And if Iraq has anything to do with this Saddam just painted a bullseye on his head!

    <b>Do you know what it is to live in agony and misery and hope that the next bomb or missile of human ingen****innuity doesn't take out your whole family?
    </b>

    Do you know what it's like to have chemical warfare and dangerous gases used on you? The people of Iraq do. Saddam has been testing it on his own people. Do you know what it's like to be starving, dying from diseases that cause people to melt before you eyes, and being executed for not joining the military or agreeing with the Taliban? The people of Afghanistan do. Do you know what it's like to see planes flying into building and watching people die for no reason? Americans do. And if Iraq has anything to do with this Saddam is going to pay. You don't want innocent people to get hurt, but unless the U.S. does something innocent people will get hurt anyway.

    <b>Wow, Isn't it great to have an OPINION about bombing Iraq, sending sons and daugthers across your virtual map, and all that ****. Feel like a man bud, argh!
    </b>

    Would you rather have our sons and daughters sitting at home dying from diseases if it is proven that Iraq had something to do with this?

    <b>Bomb iraq?

    Are you really that insensitive to life? </b>

    Go ask the people of Iraq and Afghanistan if they think Saddam Hussein and the Taliban are "sensitive" to life!

    <b>A real man stands alone and sees the futility of picking and analyzing and mulling over all this chaos born out of mankinds confusion -- because he sees it in himself, hes to blame too. One realizes he took wrong turn some where along the line just like the rest of mankind. One knows there'll be more wars and more power grabbing untill he changes himself, fundamentally, eternally, until he gets to the heart of the matter the source of all this crap.

    Am i the only one that sees that this **** will never end unless we change ourselves, completely?

    Am I the only one that also feels were running out of time?</b>

    Tell that to Osama bin LAden because he is the one causing chaos in mankind. And we are running out of time, because if the world doesn't get rid of psychos and murderers and war mongers like bin Laden and Saddam then guess what? This is going to continue OVER and OVER again! The U.S. left Iraq along, look what happens? The U.S. leaves Osama bin Laden alone, look what happens?
     
    #20 RocksMillenium, Oct 26, 2001
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