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Intertextualization in Music

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by 3814, Oct 13, 2005.

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  1. 3814

    3814 Member

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    hey, i need to do a presentation on intertextualization...and i need to choose one poem or song to do my presentation on. any good examples? one that not only refers to things in society or culture but also refers to lines or ideas brought up in other songs/poems?

    right now i'm thinking of doing it on "Nice To Know You" by Incubus...because it refers to Uri Gellar, Nebulas, the phrase "pins and needles," and Coustou...but i'm looking for something that refers to another song as well.

    any help would be greatly appreciated...oh, and preferably rock music.
     
  2. KingCheetah

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    Once upon a time
    Not so long ago

    Tommy used to work on the docks
    Union’s been on strike
    He’s down on his luck...it’s tough, so tough
    Gina works the diner all day
    Working for her man, she brings home her pay
    For love - for love

    She says we’ve got to hold on to what we’ve got
    ’cause it doesn’t make a difference
    If we make it or not
    We’ve got each other and that’s a lot
    For love - we’ll give it a shot

    Chorus:
    Whooah, we’re half way there
    Livin’ on a prayer
    Take my hand and we’ll make it - I swear
    Livin’ on a prayer

    Tommy’s got his six string in hock
    Now he’s holding in what he used
    To make it talk - so tough, it’s tough
    Gina dreams of running away
    When she cries in the night
    Tommy whispers baby it’s okay, someday

    We’ve got to hold on to what we’ve got
    ’cause it doesn’t make a difference
    If we make it or not
    We’ve got each other and that’s a lot
    For love - we’ll give it a shot

    Chorus

    We’ve got to hold on ready or not
    You live for the fight when it’s all that you’ve got

    Chorus
     
  3. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    I don't know if this song has *exactly* what you are looking for, but it might:

    They sentenced me to twenty years of boredom
    For trying to change the system from within
    I'm coming now, I'm coming to reward them
    First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin

    I'm guided by a signal in the heavens
    I'm guided by this birthmark on my skin
    I'm guided by the beauty of our weapons
    First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin

    I'd really like to live beside you, baby
    I love your body and your spirit and your clothes
    But you see that line there moving through the station?
    I told you, I told you, told you, I was one of those

    Ah you loved me as a loser, but now you're worried that I just might win
    You know the way to stop me, but you don't have the discipline
    How many nights I prayed for this, to let my work begin
    First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin

    I don't like your fashion business mister
    And I don't like these drugs that keep you thin
    I don't like what happened to my sister
    First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin

    I'd really like to live beside you, baby ...

    And I thank you for those items that you sent me
    The monkey and the plywood violin
    I practiced every night, now I'm ready
    First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin

    I am guided

    Ah remember me, I used to live for music
    Remember me, I brought your groceries in
    Well it's Father's Day and everybody's wounded
    First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin
     
  4. 111chase111

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    All of us get lost in the darkness
    Dreamers learn to steer by the stars
    All of us do time in the gutter
    Dreamers turn to look at the cars


    is from a Rush song called The Pass from Presto. It's a song about teen suicide but that line is a paraphrase of "All of us are standing in the mud, but some of us are looking at the stars" by Oscar Wilde.
     
  5. Rashmon

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    This one references a few songs you might have heard of...

    Glass Onion

    I told you about strawberry fields,
    You know the place where nothing is real.
    Well here's another place you can go,
    Where everything flows.
    Looking through the bent backed tulips,
    To see how the other half live.
    Looking through a glass onion.
    I told you about the walrus and me-man,
    You know that we're as close as can be-man.
    Well here's another clue for you all,
    The walrus was Paul.
    Standing on the cast iron shore-yeah,
    Lady Madonna trying to make ends meet-yeah.
    Looking through a glass onion.
    Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.
    Looking through a glass onion.

    I told you about the fool on the hill,
    I tell you man he living there still.
    Well here's another place you can be,
    Listen to me.
    john: i buried paul
    Fixing a hole in the ocean,
    Trying to make a dove-tail joint-yeah.
    Looking through a glass onion.
     
  6. Rashmon

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    Here's an obscure one...

    The Revolution Will Not Be Televised

    You will not be able to stay home, brother.
    You will not be able to plug in, turn on and cop out.
    You will not be able to lose yourself on skag and skip
    out for beer during commercials,
    Because the revolution will not be televised.

    The revolution will not be televised.
    The revolution will not be brought to you by Xerox
    In 4 parts without commercial interruptions.
    The revolution will not show you pictures of Nixon
    blowing a bugle and leading a charge by John
    Mitchell, General Abrams and Spiro Agnew to eat
    hog maws confiscated from a Harlem sanctuary.
    The revolution will not be televised.

    The revolution will not be brought to you by the
    Schaefer Award Theatre and will not star Natalie
    Woods and Steve McQueen or Bullwinkle and Julia.
    The revolution will not give your mouth sex appeal.
    The revolution will not get rid of the nubs.
    The revolution will not make you look five pounds
    thinner, because the revolution will not be televised, Brother.

    There will be no pictures of you and Willie Mays
    pushing that shopping cart down the block on the dead run,
    or trying to slide that color television into a stolen ambulance.
    NBC will not be able predict the winner at 8:32
    or report from 29 districts.
    The revolution will not be televised.

    There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
    brothers in the instant replay.
    There will be no pictures of pigs shooting down
    brothers in the instant replay.
    There will be no pictures of Whitney Young being
    run out of Harlem on a rail with a brand new process.
    There will be no slow motion or still life of Roy
    Wilkens strolling through Watts in a Red, Black and
    Green liberation jumpsuit that he had been saving
    For just the proper occasion.

    Green Acres, The Beverly Hillbillies, and Hooterville
    Junction will no longer be so damned relevant, and
    women will not care if Dick finally gets down with
    Jane on Search for Tomorrow because Black people
    will be in the street looking for a brighter day.
    The revolution will not be televised.

    There will be no highlights on the eleven o'clock
    news and no pictures of hairy armed women
    liberationists and Jackie Onassis blowing her nose.
    The theme song will not be written by Jim Webb,
    Francis Scott Key, nor sung by Glen Campbell, Tom
    Jones, Johnny Cash, Englebert Humperdink, or the Rare Earth.
    The revolution will not be televised.

    The revolution will not be right back after a message
    about a white tornado, white lightning, or white people.
    You will not have to worry about a dove in your
    bedroom, a tiger in your tank, or the giant in your toilet bowl.
    The revolution will not go better with Coke.
    The revolution will not fight the germs that may cause bad breath.
    The revolution will put you in the driver's seat.

    The revolution will not be televised, will not be televised,
    will not be televised, will not be televised.
    The revolution will be no re-run brothers;
    The revolution will be live.

    Gil Scott-Heron
     
  7. Manny Ramirez

    Manny Ramirez The Music Man

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    3814,

    If you are looking for a song that talks about another song in its lyrics, here's an example of that for you:

    There was heat in the air
    And cops everywhere you looked
    So there wasn't a lot
    And the breaks that you got You know you took
    And I remember wonderin' Where you been
    The night Spanish Eddie cashed it in
    The night Spanish Eddie cashed it in
    They were playin' "Desolation Row" On the radio
    The night Spanish Eddie fell from grace
    There was amazement on his face
    On the night that Eddie failed Sanity prevailed
    It was June or July
    When the heat from above beat down
    It was famine or drought
    When the brothers went out Of syle uptown
    And we was mixin' Vicks with lemon gin
    The night Spanish Eddie cashed it in
    The night Spanish Eddie cashed it in
    They were playin "Desolation Row" On the radio
    The night Spanish Eddie made front page
    His revolution came of age
    He wrote "Surrender" on the wall
    The night he took the fall
    I heard someone say "He's tryin' to fly"
    Like Eddie used to say We'll do when we die
    I know someone turned you For a spin
    The night Spanish Eddie cashed it in
    The night Spanish Eddie cashed it in
    They were playin' "Desolation Row" On the radio
     
  8. mc mark

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    MONTEREY
    ERIC BURDON AND THE ANIMALS

    In the beginning, the people came and listened
    some of them came and played others gave flowers away
    Yes they did, down in Monterey (down in Monterey).

    The young gods smiles upon the crowd
    their music being born of love
    children danced night and day
    religion was being born down in Monterey.

    The byrds and the airplane did fly
    oh ravi shankar's music made me cry
    the who exploded into fire and light
    hugh masakelas music was black as night
    the grateful dead blew everybody's mind
    jimi hendrix people believe me set the world on fire
    his majesty prince jones smiled as he moved amongst the crowd
    ten thousand electric guitars were grovin' real loud

    you wanna find the truth in life, don't pass music by
    and you know i would lie, no i would lie, not lie no
    i would not lie (down in Monterey).

    Three days of understanding of moving with one another
    even the cops grooved with us, do you believe me yeah

    down in Monterey, down in Monterey
    down in Monterey, down in Monterey

    I think that maybe I'm dreamin'
    Monterey, Monterey, down in Monterey
    can you hear what I say
    down in Monterey, Monterey.
     
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