LOL, that's me! Seriously, it really is. And if you think about it, it makes perfect sense. I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt it. I think we are in for one of Falk's games here. Thanks for putting up my message though! 1 away from 1000... ------------------ Looking for next year's Dan Langhi? Draftsource.net Sign Mo Taylor. Bench Kenny Thomas. Vote in the 64 player 1 on 1 NBA Tournament! (Championship) http://bbs.clutchplays.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000991.html
I agree, now that I think about it. I didn't know that the Clippers had so many players on there team. It doesn't look like Seattle could make the trade, you're right. I sure would like to see him here next season. ------------------
Good one Cat. Did Mo really say that the rumors of him leaning to Seattle are false? ------------------
No doubt about the MO issue going to Sonics was a bluff inorder to get the $4.5 million trade exception. I'm not even suprised to hear in the next few weeks that he land in the Rocket town. But then again signing Mo is just like signing a big shooting guard or a small forward because of lack of effort on the board. The truth,I could care less if Rockets bring him in or not. ------------------ Rudy T. will find and fulfill Rockets destiny.
AND NOW, POST 1000: I have read in numerous places that Taylor said on a Detroit radio station that the rumors of him going to Seattle are false. However, he also said that he had it down to FOUR teams, not two. The teams were the Rockets, Sonics, Lakers, and Knicks. ------------------ Looking for next year's Dan Langhi? Draftsource.net Sign Mo Taylor. Bench Kenny Thomas. Vote in the 64 player 1 on 1 NBA Tournament! (Championship) http://bbs.clutchplays.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000991.html
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/sports/bk/bkn/632188 That says it's down to Rockets/Sonics. I also heard that 4 team stuff. He won't be signing with the Lakers for 3 reasons, IMO. 1. It'd be best for him to get away from the Staple Center. He won't be taken in with open arms there even if it's for the better LA team. 2. He's not a Phil Jackson type of player. 3. Glen Rice's agent is David Falk. Rice wants out, so Falk wouldn't throw another client of his in there. ------------------ The Serious Police are watching. Follow the rules or be assimilated. Shandon is underrated.
If you want to be honest... David Falk+ any player+ any team= 1 hell of a soap opera. ------------------ Looking for next year's Dan Langhi? Draftsource.net Sign Mo Taylor. Bench Kenny Thomas. Vote in the 64 player 1 on 1 NBA Tournament! (Championship) http://bbs.clutchplays.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000991.html
Cat, Can you list the 14 that the Clips have under contract? Avent.........FA? Pete C........FA? Closs.........signed McInnis.......FA? Taylor........FA Bohannon......signed Nesby.........signed Olowokandi ...signed Piatkowski ...signed Skinner ......signed Maggette .....signed Odom .........signed Rooks ........signed Strong .......signed Miles ........signed Dooling.......signed Q Richardson .signed I am missing somebody as being signed. Mango ------------------ 1. Put new topics in the proper forum 2. Use clear wording for new threads 3. No duplicate threads 4. Conduct yourself as an adult The Serious Police are watching Donate Blood or be assimilated!
Mango, You are right I think. My mistake. I had counted the 13 you had there, but I had assumed that the Clippers also had Jeff McInnis signed for this season, as most Clipper fans say he will be the opening day PG. I didn't know that he was still a FA. ------------------ Looking for next year's Dan Langhi? Draftsource.net Sign Mo Taylor. Bench Kenny Thomas. Vote in the 64 player 1 on 1 NBA Tournament! (Championship) http://bbs.clutchplays.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000991.html
They also have their 2nd round pick, Marko Jaric....no reason to believe he wouldn't make the team, being the 30th pick overall, unless he's stuck in Europe (which he may be). Mango, I also found one more you missed: Charles Jones (not the former Rocket). ------------------ The Serious Police are watching. Follow the rules or be assimilated. Shandon is underrated.
Cat and NIKEstrad, I checked the Bender site and http://members.home.net/victony/lacdata.htm and they agreed on who was signed by the Clippers. The Rockets 4.5 million trade exception is worthless (will not transfer) to the Clips because they are under the Salary Cap. Mango ------------------ 1. Put new topics in the proper forum 2. Use clear wording for new threads 3. No duplicate threads 4. Conduct yourself as an adult The Serious Police are watching Donate Blood or be assimilated! [This message has been edited by Mango (edited August 12, 2000).]
Mango, I found out a couple of hours after I posted the message that the Clippers would not get the trade exception because they were indeed more than 4.5M under the cap, or the value of the trade exception. However, does that mean that the trade exception and a draft pick could not get a deal done? My question, basically, is could the Rockets trade the Clippers a future draft pick and the exception, and receive Taylor in return? I understand that the Clippers could not use the trade exception. But, if it is possible for the Rockets to use the trade exception to bring in more money in a trade, could a deal with the Clippers still be worked out? A future pick is better for them than nothing. Even though the exception would expire for the Clippers, could we still acquire a player from them with it and a future pick? As I said, if this is true, they wouldn't get the exception but they would get a pick. Can this be done? I'm personally not sure, and hopefully you can decode what I mean by this Mango. ------------------ Looking for next year's Dan Langhi? Draftsource.net Sign Mo Taylor. Bench Kenny Thomas. Vote in the 64 player 1 on 1 NBA Tournament! (Championship) http://bbs.clutchplays.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000991.html
Cat, Should be no problem for a trade to go through. Houston can use their trade exception credit to take on more salary and give the Clippers whatever they agree upon. Not that I am in favor of throwing a multi-year contract for big money at Taylor. I still think that Taylor and Falk want to hit the jackpot and he will sign a one year deal (Mid Level) just so he can go back into the Free Agent market in 2001. Taking a 4-5 million dollar sign-n-trade would tie him up for several years and could mean missing a bigger payout over time. Mango ------------------ 1. Put new topics in the proper forum 2. Use clear wording for new threads 3. No duplicate threads 4. Conduct yourself as an adult The Serious Police are watching Donate Blood or be assimilated! [This message has been edited by Mango (edited August 12, 2000).]
Hmm...maybe the Clippers will be our friends? We can always throw in $$$. We do have better leverage than Seattle, as they don't want contracts...if the Derek Anderson thing didn't make that clear, I don't know what would. Mango-I got my list of players from nba.com They probably plan on at least bringing them into the camp....and also Charles O'Bannon tore it up in the summer leagues for them, averaging 18 a game, so he may have an invite coming to him. Cat-They could in fact trade the exception/pick for Taylor, or even just the exception, assuming Mo signs for 4.5 mill. I did a 3 year contract starting at 4.5 million for Mo. Because the raises are 12.5% because he's doing it sign and trade, compared to the 10% for no sign and trade, it comes out to 3 years, 15.1875 million. Basically, about 1 mill a year in difference between that and the Toronto cost. Mo's value has gone down because of it, perhaps he'd sign for that? Or, they can do that signing bonus thing that heypartner has talked about before (I'm not quite sure on the specifics. Or, if we wanted to play games with the 15% rule, we could take back 115% of the 4.4 mill we put out...or 5.06 mill, which would bring his 3 year value to 17.0775 mill, very close to the 18 mill Toronto deal. ------------------ The Serious Police are watching. Follow the rules or be assimilated. Shandon is underrated. [This message has been edited by NIKEstrad (edited August 12, 2000).]
NIKEstrad, I went to this page: http://www.nba.com/clippers/roster.html and it has the other players that you gave. I doubt if they are currently signed and probably count for very little against the salary cap. A side note about that page. Look at the table listing the roster and the heading still says "CLIPPERS 1999-2000 ROSTER". Mango ------------------ 1. Put new topics in the proper forum 2. Use clear wording for new threads 3. No duplicate threads 4. Conduct yourself as an adult The Serious Police are watching Donate Blood or be assimilated!
Yeah, I saw that, but they update it. (Derek Anderson isn't listed, and Maggette and Co. are) BTW, Cat, you're famous! http://www.therocketguy.com/nbanews.asp I'm amused/annoyed with TRG. First he worries that KT and Walt wouldn't get enough playing time if we got Mo, and thinks KT can play SF full time (because he's short for a PF??!?!) and thinks that Cato/KT is fine....ok, we're a lotto team, with a great backcourt....wouldn't that mean our frontcourt is the problem? Then, acts as if Eckels gave him a special response. Yes, I read the hype on SaveOurRockets.COM. I sent an e-mail off to the judge responsible for this so-called defeat of our new arena plan. You know what, though? I did not carefully read the judge's letter to the Sport Authority. He did not in any way say he was against the new arena. In fact, he said he very much supports a new arena and he details why. He is concerned about some of the issues involved, and I would be too, now that I've read his letter carefully. Read this response I got from Judge Robert Eckels: (He goes on to give the same freaking automated reply that everyone got.) He apparently didn't read carefully enough that Eckels is on vacation, so he couldn't of done that email himself. ------------------ The Serious Police are watching. Follow the rules or be assimilated. Shandon is underrated. Kenny Thomas Should Not Be Starting. [This message has been edited by NIKEstrad (edited August 12, 2000).]
I checked the Rockets and Lakers pages at NBA.com and they all have the same problem about the old heading for the season just past. The players listed on the rosters are right,just the people running the sites are sloppy on details. Yeah, I nag about stuff that isn't right. Mango ------------------ 1. Put new topics in the proper forum 2. Use clear wording for new threads 3. No duplicate threads 4. Conduct yourself as an adult The Serious Police are watching Donate Blood or be assimilated!
