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Interesting Juwan Howard Stat

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cwebbster, Jan 26, 2005.

  1. cwebbster

    cwebbster Contributing Member

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    I was checking up on our Rockets stats on NBA.com, and I noticed something pretty interesting to me. Juwan Howard has averaged double digit points in every season of his career but this one. He is about 1.2 points from getting there. My question is, do you think that we can get him more involved in the offense? I have noticed that he has been scoring a whole lot better lately, but to have 5 players in double figures is typically a good sign. Here are his career stats:

    94-95 WAS 65 52 36.1 .489 .000 .664 2.80 5.60 8.40 2.5 .80 .23 2.55 3.60 17.0
    95-96 WAS 81 81 40.7 .489 .308 .749 2.30 5.80 8.10 4.4 .83 .48 3.74 3.30 22.1
    96-97 WAS 82 82 40.5 .486 .000 .756 2.50 5.50 8.00 3.8 1.13 .28 3.00 3.20 19.1
    97-98 WAS 64 64 40.0 .467 .000 .721 2.50 4.50 7.00 3.3 1.28 .36 2.89 3.50 18.5
    98-99 WAS 36 36 39.7 .474 .000 .753 2.50 5.60 8.10 3.0 1.17 .39 2.64 3.60 18.9
    99-00 WAS 82 82 35.5 .459 .000 .735 1.60 4.10 5.70 3.0 .82 .26 2.74 3.60 14.9
    00-01 WAS 54 54 36.7 .474 .000 .770 2.20 4.80 7.00 2.9 .85 .39 3.13 3.40 18.2
    00-01 DAL 27 27 36.8 .488 .000 .780 1.90 5.30 7.10 2.6 1.07 .59 2.70 3.90 17.8
    00-01 -- 81 81 36.7 .479 .000 .773 2.10 5.00 7.10 2.8 .93 .46 2.99 3.60 18.0
    01-02 DAL 53 44 31.3 .462 .000 .754 2.60 4.80 7.40 1.8 .53 .57 1.47 3.20 12.9
    01-02 DEN 28 28 34.9 .457 .000 .770 3.00 4.90 7.90 2.7 .64 .61 2.64 3.40 17.9
    01-02 -- 81 72 32.5 .460 .000 .761 2.80 4.80 7.60 2.1 .57 .58 1.88 3.30 14.6
    02-03 DEN 77 77 35.5 .450 .500 .803 2.40 5.20 7.60 3.0 1.00 .35 2.45 3.10 18.4
    03-04 ORL 81 77 35.5 .453 .000 .809 2.10 4.90 7.00 2.0 .67 .27 2.20 3.50 17.0
    04-05 HOU 40 26 24.0 .455 .000 .809 1.70 3.20 4.90 1.4 .48 .13 1.13 2.30 8.8

    I have always liked Juwan, and I believe that once we get players like him more involved in the offense, we will have a steady win streak. Is it JVG's system, is it his game diminsihing? Any ideas guys?

    Later
     
  2. NBAHOU713

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    He's also playing about 10 minutes less.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    He is way better than he is given credit for being.

    The guy has been ufairly labeled as an underacheiver, but his stats show that he has been consistent everywhere he has played.

    DD
     
  4. glcpimp

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    Well he isn't getting as many mintues as he used to. I think that since he isn't given that clear "starter" position that it is negatively affecting his production. He'll adapt tho, Juwan's pretty solid and he'll find his place.....He's gonna have to after we pull the steal of the draft and get a bruising 4 :D
     
  5. DaDakota

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    Don't you mean once Malick Badiane comes on board next year.

    :)
     
  6. Nautic

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    Give credit for his offensive effort.

    Sadly, this guy has no D. Either he as a PF is too short in size or he is just too short in effort, in the defensive end.
     
  7. yipengzhao

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    He's not going to be a bruiser. He'll be a camby without the 15 footer camby can sometimes hit.
     
  8. Dave2000

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    With him starting on the bench in the beginning of the season kinda hurt his average also. If you also notice, about 2/3rds of the time, he isnt on the floor to finish games.
     
  9. yipengzhao

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    Juwan Howard is an okay player. He has definitely diminished. He was never an explosive leaper and he's losing more and more. Can be crafty in the post but nowadays all he's got is the spin-middle hook.

    i mean he's a solid player on a fair contract. But i would say he's probably a below average PF in the L. maybe right at average.
     
  10. scyman

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    Juwon's been playing great lately. Having him out there nailing jumpers has really made it difficult for out opponents. I'm just glad he's starting now and playing more, and apparently Mo's role will be diminished if Juwon keeps it up. He's stepped up nicely!
     
  11. JayZ750

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    Sura and Howard were both inserted into the starting lineup in the showndown game between TMac/Dirk in Dallas, that the Rockets lost in overtime.

    Including that game, then, the team is 17-9 since then. The game before against Detroit Mo started and grabbed 0 rebounds.
     
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    That last game against Dallas, wow, I couldn't believe the way he was scoring! I think we have "gelled" by now, as most of you would agree. We just need CONSISTANCY! Per position, per game, period...
     
  13. rocksolid

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    Juwan is starting to settle into the offense nicely, but he is still a little hesitant to take the outside shot...he'll get to a double-digit average by the end of the season.
     
  14. daoshi

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    Stats can be misleading in this league, this is especially true in Howard's case. Juwan is one of those players who can always get good stats, but cannot effect the outcome of the game, e.g., V. Carter, D. Marshall, L Spree, etc.

    Like many have noted, Howard has holes in his game, and he is over the hill in his career. But as a role player with a fair contract, he is okay to have. We have good rebounding in backcourt to cover his lack of rebounding, and he always be able to provide scoring. He does need to play better post defense, though.
     
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    I would rather him have take less shots so Yao, our BEST post player, can get more.
    Juwan should stick to putbacks and that top of the key jumper. Juwan's post game is horrible. He's faking himself out.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    Tinman,

    Come on, he has a good hook shot, and has been playing decent defense.

    Come on now Tinny.....admit it......it will make you feel much better...

    :)
     
  17. dugtzu

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    did you read that article stating how incredibly strong he was?- could easily get to 250lbs it said- if he can play, hell be a bruiser.
     
  18. YallMean

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    You have to look at his shooting percentage, which is on line with his career stats, slight lower. But sevreal factors here. He is not a offense focus anymore like he had always been. He is aging. He plays less minutes. With the percentage he is shooting, I bet JVG would want Yao take more shots. Howard has not been any relucatant to shoot that elbow jumper that made his career either. I will say he is still what he is but older and play as a role player.
     
  19. KeepKenny

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    Since the Dallas game Juwon has not really impressed me at all. The guy is always open, so he always gets quality shots. He should make a lot more than he does. When he can't get that shot off, everything falls apart, usually resulting in a turnover. A few games ago he travelled while trying to take a wide open 15 footer.

    The Tmac/Howard pick and roll was so bad it almost singlehandedly lost the game for us against the Knicks. Also, he tries to post up against players that he has no chance against when Yao has an obvious mismatch. He tried to post up Dwight Howard when Yao was rolling in that game.

    Couple his very shaky offense with his lack of rebounding, and he is definately the weak link on this team. One of the reasons why Yao hasn't been taking jumpers or been used on the pick and roll is because Howard is a horrible rebounder. JVG would rather have Juwan shoot the jumper and Yao rebound it, rather than just let Yao shoot it. He gives up offensive rebounds on freethrows far too regularly.

    I was watching the Bulls the other night and I think that Tyson Chandler would be a great fit. He doesn't have much of a jumpshot, but he looks like Bill Russell out there compared to Howard. With Chandler down low to crash the boards, Yao could fire from the top of the key without worry. The defensive contributions he would make compared to Juwan would be monumental for us.
     
  20. Toast

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    I think he's been more of a 2nd option on offense before this year, so his offensive stats would understandably take a bit of a slide.
     

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