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Interesting fact - is this fact at all ?

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by tuus, Oct 14, 2005.

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  1. tuus

    tuus Member

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    in our local town league board one guy said, that he read somewhere in web article about unofficial stats about NBA. and he swears that Jermaine O'Neal is leader in "got his shot blocked" category with 4 his shots blocked in game.
    can this be true?
    does anyone knows source?
    i used google, but my english is not good and i 'm sure i could not ask right words.
    and at all: will be that missed shot or turnover in box-score?
     
  2. nuggien

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    it's a missed shot if the shot is blocked. It's also a turnover if the other team gets the ball after the shot is blocked.
     
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    Actually, I happen to remember the broadcasters randomly mentioning this stat during a game, maybe 2 or 3 years ago... I've never seen it in print, so I wouldn't know where to find it.

    But at least it was true at one point, if it isn't still.
     
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    yeah, i've heard it during a game too.

    by the way, i'm pretty sure a blocked shot does not turn into a turnover. if you however block it in a way that you snatch the ball away from a shot, snatch meaning the moment your hand is in contact with the ball you immediately palm it and you hold it in possession, i think you get a steal, because steals are worth more than blocks. this is like the michael jordan highlight when he was with the wizards. he grabbed the ball with both hands and pulled it down.
     
  6. Christopher

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    I remember a higlight from hakeem where he blokced one guy about 4 or 5 times in the psace of about 5 seconds.
     
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    i THINK that was Charles Smith of the Knicks.
     
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    I've read that article here sometime last year that of all players in the NBA Jermaine had his shots blocked the most often.

    J
     
  10. Christopher

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    Wasnt the call from that game "Dont they get cable in Canada"?

    It was something like that.


    Ahhh....the good old days. :D
     
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    I just love it when I'm playing ball and the opponent is all excited about blocking shots. If they get one, they get all excited, meanwhile I'm hustling after the ball and putting it back in the basket. They are stiull pumped up about blocking the shot, even though I just scored.

    Morons.

    And they then go for every head fake in the book, eager to block more shots as opposed to actually playing defense.

    I've heard that said about Jermaine O'Neal, but I seriously doubt that it is true, as someone who watches him play a lot.

    He continually adds new low post moves, and gets blocked a lot less than he did 2 or 3 years ago.
     
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    well in a rockets game yao and mutombo combined to block him something like 5 times and i'm pretty sure that's when i heard the stat (and probably when everyone else heard it).

    i believe brian grant led in the percentage of his shots that got blocked but obviously jermaine takes a lot more shots than grant.
     
  13. Pat

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    Just my observation, but I'll tell you who got blocked a lot, was Akeem.

    Lets face it, players like Akeem and Jermaine get the ball a lot, and everybody in the stadium prety much knows where it is going. That has to lead to a lot of block opportunities.

    In fact, that makes me think how good players like Akeem and Jermaine reall are, that they can score so often, when they have been specifically studied and defenses are designed to stop them and their specific tendancies.
     
  14. Zboy

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    Disagree. Hakeem/Akeem was not blocked very often. Usually the players who could block Hakeem were top tier centers like Robinson, Ewing etc. And they would block a very small % of his shots. Young Akeem was too ferocious under the basket and players were reluctant to go after every one of his shots. Refined Hakeem had a bag of tricks to elude defenders. If Hakeem was getting blocked a lot, as you claim, Rockets would not have won the 2 championships. If Hakeem could have been stopped, Rockets would lose. Try again.

    As for Jermaine, his body does not do him much of a favor in terms of getting blocked. He is long and skinny but for the post moves he makes, IMP he needs a wider body. His lack of upper body mass allows a lot of his shots to get blocked.
     
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    Just reporting what I saw. Though I would like to see a stat on that and see if what I remember matches up to the truth. I consider myself a pretty observant guy, but it wouldn't be the first time there was a diference. Maybe I just noticed it more because it hurt my feelings when somebody was blocking our guy.

    As to the 'try again' comment, thanks I will. Just because a player is etting stuffed a lot does not mean he is not a good player and capable of leading a team to wins. Just look at Jermaine. Pretty good player, apparently gets blocked a lot, may well lead his team to a championship some day.

    Besides, there is a fair chance that the guy getting blocked the most is the guy who spends the most time around the rim.
     
  16. Zboy

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    I did not say Jermaine was a bad player. He is excellent. But the discussion was about getting shots blocked and I have heard it a couple of times about him getting blocked often. I attributed it to (my best guess) his thin frame, which allows defenders better angles to block him. A wider body is much harder to defend and block in the post, especially on man-to-man defense.

    As for Hakeem, I had followed him closely. I distinctly remember getting into a debate with a Knicks fan before the Knicks/Rockets Finals in 94. Though we differed on multiple points, one of the few things we did agree on was that Hakeem will be much harder to defend than Ewing. Hakeem was always good at evading defenders.

    Bottom line is this. If Hakeem was blocked often, then it means Hakeem's isolation offense was not very effective. Based on the kind of offense Rockets played back then, it would have been nearly impossible for them to win the 2 titles they did.
     

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