Interesting: Astronomers want observatory on the moon

You know by 1964, experts say man will have established twelve colonies on the moon, ideal for family vacations.

 

The observatory on the moon is a great idea.

DD

 

NASA won't do it. The ESA will have to, or the Russians.

 

Elucidate. Why not?

 

Because NASA doesn't want to go back to the Moon. There are a thousand reasons to do so (solar energy arrays, water on the Moon, colonization and terraforming practice, gajillions of scientific surveys/missions - and the ISS should have been built there), but they refuse to do so.

The grad program I used to be in at UHCL had alot of NASA people in it, and they'd always clam up when either the Moon or Cydonia were mentioned. It's just off-limits as far as they're concerned.

Several NASA officials have come out in the past few years and said that NASA was told not to return to the Moon on their last visit. They apparently found something there on the last trip. Alien-conspiracy stuff... But whatever the reason, NASA still refuses to return.

Have you ever wondered why we never went back? According to NASA, "There's just nothing to see there"...

 

I think treeman pretty much got it in his reply, but I want to add this one thing - NASA's new director is a cheapskate with a lack of vision. With his purse tightening (paraphrasing him, he is more concerned about the bottom line than about anything NASA may do), I doubt NASA will undertake anything major or innovative in the near future. Even the ISS may be doomed.

 

Um... you listen to alot of Art Bell, treeman? You are familiar with Lunar prospector, the NASA mission to the moon in 98? I'm sorry, I really don't even know what to say... You do realise that this, combined with your recient 'Alien Pyramid' stuff make you sound a bit, er... fuzzy on the boundries. I really would like to believe you... Can you drop anything tangable about this?

 

treeman -- are you serious?? they found something they don't want to know more about, or something??

by the way...what's cydonia??

 

Cydonia is the dubious legacy of the Mariner(?) missions to Mars. It is the 'face' on Mars that a minority of people scream is a sign of NASA's coverup of an ancient civilation on Mars. These are the pictures that were transmited back:



NASA, however, contends that it is an artifact of the shadows. The most recient images came back like this:



This is one of those things that 'attract' the same type of people that are sure that the lunar landing was staged in Arizona and that the Trilateral comission is a secret conspiracy by evil Zionists in league with Communists to secretly rule the world.

In otherwords, this is one of those amazing accusations that, even if true, there is not enough evidence to make the leap of faith defensable

 

Recent NASA missions involving the moon in some capacity, BTW.

Galileo (1990, 1992)
Clementine (1994)
Lunar Prospector (1997)

Near future missions to the Moon:

SMART-1 (2002)
Lunar-A (2003)
Selene (2003)

 

are there any credible scientists/astronauts who've expressed interest in the "face" being of alien creation?? or is it a nutjob situation??

 

Ottomaton:

When was the last manned mission to the Moon? It's been a while.

BTW - as far as Cydonia, I've never made much of the "Face". Go back and read my posts in that other thread. I am interested in the "city-formations" and the "pyramids". Consecutive right angles are hard for nature to create (impossible, really).

Why don't you look at the more recent photos of those (I posted some of them in that other thread)? In the same set of photos where the "Face" was shown to likely be a natural formation, the "city" areas still have lots of right angles. Nature abhors straight lines. And NASA refuses to investigate. They will not land a probe in Cydonia.

As far as the Moon goes, I've read that among other things they found an obelisk. But as I said - make what you want of NASA's decision to not go back. They can send more probes, but until they send a manned mission, it's meaningless (and a waste of $, unless it's prepatory work for a manned expedition).

Just ask any NASA employee about it. Watch the reaction. It is a "There's nothing to see there" reaction. There is clearly quite a lot that we could do on the Moon. Must do.

 

really interesting stuff, guys...

treeman -- do you have any pics of the evidence of civilizations you could post here??

lynus -- ever read or heard what the astronauts claims they saw??

 

Here:



I don't care about the "Face". It's what's near the "Face" that interests me.

 

The thing is, I see all the suppositions. They're all really good, intresting things. Stuff where things are done wrong, or places where questions need to be answered. But, then it's like there's this great leap of faith from some a loose amalgamation of inconclusive, though intresting facts to the absolute surity of some vast elaborate conspiracy.

You need a shave, treeman. Mr. Occam suggested I lend you his razor. The reason they won't go to Cydonia is the same reason that Mr. Bush didn't try to justify the crackpot claims that the US generated the images of OBL found on a video tape in Tora Bora: Those that really want to belive will belive no matter what. No body else really cares that much. Therefore, the only potential outcome of talking about it/going there is to draw more conspiracy people into the pot.

 

as someone looking at those pics with absolutely no astronomy experience or anything of the like...i would say it seems at LEAST possible that those are the remnants of a civilization. there seems to be some "order" there..and i certainly see what you mean by right angles/triangles, etc.

i'm pretty sure that's a moisture farm down there...tell luke to have those droids cleaned up by noon or there'll be hell to pay!