But everyone knows all the best bands are affiliated with Satan! (My god is bigger than your god) Pentagon Defends Gen. Who Chided Muslims By MATT KELLEY Associated Press Writer October 16, 2003, 3:20 PM EDT WASHINGTON -- Pentagon leaders on Thursday spoke up in support of a top general who has told church audiences that the war on terrorism is a battle with Satan and that Muslims worship idols. Army Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin has made several speeches -- some in uniform -- at evangelical Christian churches in which he cast the war on terrorism in religious terms. Boykin said of a 1993 battle with a Muslim militia leader in Somalia: "I knew that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God, and his was an idol." Boykin did not respond Thursday to a request for comment. Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Thursday he had not seen Boykin's comments, but he praised the three-star general, who is the Pentagon's deputy undersecretary of defense for intelligence. "He is an officer that has an outstanding record in the United States armed forces," Rumsfeld said at a news conference. Gen. Richard Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said he had spoken in uniform at prayer breakfasts, adding he did not think Boykin broke any military rules by giving talks at churches. "There is a very wide gray area on what the rules permit," Myers said. "At first blush, it doesn't look like any rules were broken." A Republican senator visiting the Pentagon Thursday was more critical. Sen. Lincoln D. Chafee of Rhode Island said he had not been aware of Boykin's statements as reported in the news media, then added, "If that's accurate, to me it's deplorable." A Muslim civil rights group on Thursday called for Boykin to be reassigned. "Putting a man with such extremist views in a critical policy-making position sends entirely the wrong message to a Muslim world that is already skeptical about America's motives and intentions," said Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. Awad's statement noted that a verse in the Quran says Muslims believe in the same God as Jews and Christians. Boykin's church speeches, first reported by NBC News and the Los Angeles Times, cast the war on terrorism as a religious battle between Christians and the forces of evil. Appearing in dress uniform before a religious group in Oregon in June, Boykin said Islamic extremists hate the United States "because we're a Christian nation, because our foundation and our roots are Judeo-Christian. ... And the enemy is a guy named Satan." Rumsfeld on Thursday repeated the Bush administration position that the war on terrorism is not a war against Islam but against people "who have tried to hijack a religion." The defense secretary said he could not prevent military officials from making controversial statements. "We're a free people. And that's the wonderful thing about our country," Rumsfeld said. "I think that for anyone to run around and think that that can be managed and controlled is probably wrong. Saddam Hussein could do it pretty well, because he'd go around killing people if they said things he didn't like." http://www.newsday.com/news/politic...,2048231.story?coll=sns-ap-politics-headlines
Army Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin has made several speeches -- some in uniform -- at evangelical Christian churches in which he cast the war on terrorism in religious terms. Boykin said of a 1993 battle with a Muslim militia leader in Somalia: "I knew that my God was bigger than his. I knew that my God was a real God, and his was an idol." Boykin's church speeches, first reported by NBC News and the Los Angeles Times, cast the war on terrorism as a religious battle between Christians and the forces of evil. Appearing in dress uniform before a religious group in Oregon in June, Boykin said Islamic extremists hate the United States "because we're a Christian nation, because our foundation and our roots are Judeo-Christian. ... And the enemy is a guy named Satan" It is always reassuring to know that we have certified psychopaths leading US war efforts around the world.
That's the kind of guy who you know is probably making jokes to his men like "if it weren't for all these liberal p*****s, we could just drop the big bomb on these backwards, Godless, motherf*ckers."
It's a good thing they're on our side, cause if they were on the other that would make us a theocracy...on our side it's just the actions of individuals that don't indicate anything about the whole.
Jesus would agree with the fact that Allah is a false idol. However, in regards to God placing Bush into the White House... let's just say I'm a "doubting Thomas" on that fact. At least he admitted that a majority of Americans didn't want Bush there. attack when ready
Romans 13 and most of Isaiah in the Old Testament indicates that powers come to power through the will of God...at least through His allowance. Understanding all of that is not an easy task. I suppose that's the problem with all this finiteness i'm trapped in!
from the viewpoint of a Christian??? certainly you understand that viewpoint, even if you don't agree with it.
because Jesus affirmed the Old Testament...said over and over again he came to fulfill the law and the prophets which make up the Old Testament. reading of Allah, I'm not struck that he's the same He as the God of the Bible. particularly through the New Testament.
an idol is anything worshipped above the one true God, Yahweh. it can be money...it can be sex...it can be yourself...it can be Allah.
A) The quote I was contesting didn't affimr that a moden Christian would interpret Allah as a false profet, but that Jesus would. In that part of the very premise of God is that he is unknowable, and that Jesus is God, and that we are dealing with things jesus never addressed, I amn asking how does he know what Jesus would think about something. B) Allah is an interpretation of the same God...if you read the Old Testament and the New Testament, you will find at least as pronounced inconsistency in the portrayal of God as you do when you read the New Testament and the QU'Ran.
a. Christianity teaches that Jesus IS God...that He was there from the beginning. John 1 covers that pretty explicitly...and Jesus Himself said, "I am" which infuriated the leaders of the synagogue. This dives into questions regarding the Trinity, of course...which is always difficult to understand. But Jesus' flesh is merely a fleshy manifestation of the Great I Am. b. No...I disagree. Jesus is the fulfillment of the Old Testament. He's the reason for the Old Testament. He's the answer to the fact we can't meet the requirements of a holy God, particularly as set out in the Ten Commandments. He's the answer to an over legalistic viewpoint of love and salvation.
