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Indy claimed to have nixed Mo for Cro

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by xiki, Feb 19, 2004.

  1. xiki

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    http://www.indystar.com/articles/9/122035-9189-039.html

    Houston, which is seeking another 3-point threat, has offered Maurice Taylor for Croshere, but the Pacers were not interested.

    If that is true it blows me away.

    By Mark Montieth mark.montieth@indystar.com February 19, 2004

    Deadline no concern to Pacers
    Bird, Walsh feel no pressure to make a trade before 3 p.m. today.

    Their penthouse atop the Eastern Conference affords the Indiana Pacers the luxury of being particular. Snooty as they want to be, in fact.

    That's why they have taken on the air of a cautious window-shopper rather than a frantic bargain hunter as today's 3 p.m. trade deadline approaches.

    "We're not looking, but if something comes up that can help the team, yeah," team president Larry Bird said Wednesday.

    Bird, who took over the team presidency from Donnie Walsh last July, made a bold move in August when he fired coach Isiah Thomas and hired Rick Carlisle. He has proven to be less dramatic regarding the playing roster so far, not making a single trade, but he has a few more hours to make a splash.
    Although Bird has final say on trades, he consults closely with Walsh, his predecessor. Both work the telephones, discussing potential deals with other teams. Walsh's influence, however, is likely to be toward patience. He made four major deadline deals in his 17 years in charge of basketball operations, all when the Pacers had a losing record.

    The most likely scenario is that they'll let this team play out the season and see what it can do in the playoffs.

    "Larry and Donnie are fully prepared to do that," Carlisle said. "It appears that's where we are."

    For the front office to make a major move when the team is 39-15 and holds a 61/2-game lead in the Eastern Conference heading into Wednesday's play would be out of character. But not out of the question.

    Bird repeated his oft-stated desire for improved outside shooting. The Pacers rank 24th in field goal percentage after shooting a season-low 33 percent in Tuesday's loss to New Orleans, and rank 17th in 3-point percentage.

    The weakness was glaring in the loss to the Hornets, who double-teamed Jermaine O'Neal in the low post and forced him to pass the ball out to perimeter shooters. The Pacers hit just 4-of-22 3-point shots in that game.

    However, Reggie Miller's percentage (.421) is better than all but two of his previous NBA seasons, Jamaal Tinsley (.342) has shown improvement and Austin Croshere (.402) remains a threat.

    Al Harrington has supplanted Croshere in the trade deadline hot seat this season, receiving mention in more rumors than any of his teammates.

    The Pacers have been flooded with calls about Harrington, who is regarded as a valuable commodity because of his talent, perceived potential, desire to start, age (24) and a contract that isn't exceptionally long or excessive.

    He'll receive $13.3 million in the two seasons following this one.

    One rumor that seemed less ridiculous than most had Harrington and Scot Pollard going to Golden State for Erick Dampier and Speedy Claxton, but officials from both teams have privately denied it.

    Dampier, who began his career with the Pacers, would provide them with a legitimate center. He's 6-11 and 265 pounds, and is averaging 11.9 points and 11.6 rebounds. Claxton, now starting for the Warriors in place of the injured Nick Van Exel, has averaged 16.2 points, 6.6 assists and 2.8 steals in the past 14 games.

    The Warriors are thought to be unlikely to trade Claxton but willing to deal Dampier. He has requested a trade in the past and has stated a desire to return to the Pacers.

    However, he can opt out of his contract after this season and is considering a switch of agents. That makes him a dangerous acquisition because he could leave at the end of the season. The Warriors have interest in keeping him because they could go under the salary cap if he exercises his option.

    Bird did not address Dampier specifically but does not appear desperate to add a center.

    "We'd like to get bigger, but we have one of the bigger teams in the East already," he said.

    Harrington, who has been troubled all season by a sore right knee, said he neither anticipates nor desires a trade.

    "I don't think anything is going to happen," he said. "We've got a good thing going, excellent chemistry and everything. I don't think anyone wants to mess that up.

    "I talk to Donnie all the time and he tells me that I'm off the market and that nobody can get me, so I have to believe in what he says."

    Croshere, the subject of several rumors the past two seasons, is taking a similarly relaxed stance.

    "I haven't even bothered looking on the Internet this year," he said. "If it happens, Larry or Donnie will let me know. I'm not going to worry about it."

    Houston, which is seeking another 3-point threat, has offered Maurice Taylor for Croshere, but the Pacers were not interested.

    Still, anything can happen in the final hours of what is expected to be a busy trading session. The players know from experience their home is not guaranteed until the deadline passes.

    "One thing I learned this summer is to only worry about the basketball part and let the management worry about the business part," O'Neal said.
     
  2. ergo

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    Whatever their reasons, I'm glad they didn't agree. Mo is a key player on this team and I don't think Cro is enough to trade him for. I can't believe the Rox mgt even offered Mo for Cro. Damn.
     
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    Wow I cant believe that...I am very happy Indy turned down that deal but you have to wonder if there is anything going on behind the scenes.
     
  4. HeyDude

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    i think they want to take credit for turning it down before getting laughed at for proposing such a pathetic deal to begin with.;)
     
  5. Raven

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    Why should this trade rumor surprise anyone.

    How many years has it been since SF was traded for, because every trade/deal/draft since then (besides YM) has been a total bust.

    Besides getting lucky with a ping pong ball,what exactly has the Rocket's front office done recently that would give us any hope of getting a fair value for SF, SC, MT, or Cato.

    Raven
     
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    CHROSHERE IS TERRIBLE. I do not believe this article at all!
     
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    Yeah, I believe them, cause I just heard the Rockets turned down the Lakers offer of Kobe for Mike Wilks.

    What lengths people will go to save face...
     
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    thats rigth
     
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    seriously....wasn't it the other way around?

    it's been reported both ways now

    either way i can't see any reason why indy would turn down that deal. so being left with reason i can only assume that indy offered it to the rox and the rox turned it down

    plus i don't understand why we are desperately seeking another 3 pt shooter? any article that says that obviously hasnt looked at our team...

    we have stevie, who shoots good for his career 35% from 3's

    cuttino, who is shooting 38% from 3's

    padgett, who is one of the top 3pt shooters in the league at 53%

    jim jackson, who is shooting it pretty solid from outside at nearly 40% and taking nearly 5 a game

    pike, who is having a terrible year but still shooting 35% from 3's

    and boki who is shooting 38%

    these rumors about houston seeking another 3pt shooter are just flat out stupid
     
  10. Raven

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    CD better hurry.

    He only has about 4 hours left to wreck the team....

    Raven
     
  11. Deuce

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    In my opinion Croshere is NOT worth Mo Taylor. We should be turning THEM down!

    Unless this team can generate a 2nd solid post player behind Yao....then we should not be trading Mo Taylor.
     
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    i really don't believe this rumor. Mo Taylor has been solid for us all year. He can shoot the jumper or post up. Austin Croshere just doesn't seem like it's enough. The rockets were interested in him a few years back after his great play in the finals but since then he hasn't amounted to anything.

    The rockets are going to stand pat unless they get one hell of an offer they can't refuse, which in all likely hood won't happen. We will live and die with the 12 guys we have suited up and changes will come in the summer.
     
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    I hope they aren't holding out for CD to offer them a couple of 1st rounders to sweeten the deal.
     
  14. Clutch

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    So who built the team that is so good that any move made would wreck it?
     
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    I hope this was just some PR BS because this would've been a horrible trade. Vecsey is buddies with some in the Pacers organization. Maybe it has something to do with that.
     
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    Rockets turn them down....no way on this green earth that CD offered Mo for Crow straight up. If he did, then he's MORE of a MORON than we all thought!
     
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    wasnt it cato for cro to before. it wouldnt be taht bad if it was cato for cro think.
     
  18. xiki

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    We 'all'? I certainly don't believe the man is a moron. I believe the man works hard, smart and under the constraints his job req requires.

    If you don't like him then go with that. Don't insult me and 'everyone' else along the way.
     
  19. Raven

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    Hi Clutch :D

    Well as I already posted in this thread:

    How many years has it been since SF was traded for, because every trade/deal/draft since then (besides YM) has been a total bust.

    That's pretty much my whole point.

    Besides getting a lucky bounce in the ping pong hopper, what has CD done the past five years except make bad trades and bad drafts.

    Raven
     
  20. JuanValdez

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    I think that's a subject fir its own thread. I don't think it's true that he's done nothing right since then, but I won't derail this thread for it.

    As for the trade claim, I didn't believe it when Vescey reported it, and I don't believe now. Unless they've neglected to tell us some important detail (like Indiana giving us a lotto pick or something), the trade is too ridiculously one-sided to take seriously.
     

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