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Indiana Pacers

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by The Joker, Nov 5, 2009.

  1. The Joker

    The Joker Member

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    Why isn't Indiana better? They did win their first game today against the Knicks, but I thought they would be a lot better then what they started. Granger is a pure scorer who also plays above average D. Hibbert does a nice job inside both offensively and defensively. Troy Murphy is a very nice role player, Dahntay Jones a good wing defender. I just don't see why they cant be like the Hawks a few years ago when they first made their playoff appearance.
     
  2. 1individual

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    Coaching, leadership, heart. ummm??

    Granger is one of my favorite players, wish he'd be on our team.
     
  3. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    Does anyone ever wonder why there are so many white folks on that team? On the real, not to be racist, but a majority of that team is pradominally white.

    What's with that? Coincidence? I highly doubt that. :confused:
     
  4. Chamillionaire

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    indiana isn't a good team. they are a notch below the playoff teams, not a lot of talent and chemistry there.
     
  5. Honey Bear

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    Their franchise PG - TJ Ford - isn't a point guard. That kills you in this league. Not a good defensive team either, they're too young to care.
     
  6. hoplite

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    bc they already went through let's have a team full of thugs stage?? Look how that worked out. That set them back yrs, now they trying to rebuid the face of their franchise.
     
  7. worzel gummidge

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    9 black player, 6 white.
     
  8. GlenRice

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    Whats wrong with that?
     
  9. LongTimeFan

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    The question people should be asking is why isn't Portland better? I'd be scared of them if JVG ever got hold of that team.
     
  10. Pieman2005

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    There's the answer to the OPs question.
     
  11. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    Nothing wrong at all. They have a so-so collection going but nothing but losses to show for it.

    6-9 isn't really an average number in the league. Just an observation, not trying to offend anyone, I love white people!
     
  12. B-Bob

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    Brandon Rush getting significant minutes is a terrible sign for any NBA-level franchise.
     
  13. steddinotayto

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    It's the classic "Wrong Coach/Wrong Team" dilemma. The reason why O'Brien's style worked to some success in Boston is due to having shooters (Pierce, Walker, McCarty, etc) to run his offense. The Pacers got Granger and that's pretty much about it.

    And like Ronny said, having TJ Ford as your point guard is an issue as well. Letting Jarrett Jack leave was a mistake IMO.
     
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    http://blogs.indystar.com/pacersinsider/archives/2009/10/dunleavy_your_t.html
     
  15. FLASH21

    FLASH21 Heart O' Champs

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    What about Dunleavy, Deiner, & Head?..... :(

    LOL
     
  16. MrButtocks

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    Last year the lakers had a bunch of white players. Vujacic, Gasol, Morrison, Mihm, Radmanovic, and Walton.
     
  17. FLASH21

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    First of all Gasol is Spanish.....

    Second I didn't think Vujabich & Radmonovic were considered white, wouldn't they be forieghn???? :confused:
     
  18. The Joker

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    The white players thing isn't an issue. If you think white players, because they are white, are worse then black players.... you are mistaken.
    Dunleavy is very talented, a player who has the talent to be a Lamar Odom type player but hasn't been able to stay healthy. Troy Murphy is a very good PF. Tyler Hansborough is the type of player Larry Bird is trying to bring into this team. hard working hardnosed type of guys.

    As far as the failing, TJ Ford may be the right answer. Him as a backup would be great, but as a starter, you guys are right he is not the answer. But was Jack that much better?
     
  19. steddinotayto

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    Dunleavy's injured and if your team is going to include Deiner and Head as your best players, then it's got more issues than previously thought.
     
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    The vast majority of Spanish people are ethnically white, their language was adopted by many South American cultural groups.

    And when did ethnicity follow national boundries? Was Dream not black because he was foreign? If Vujacic and Radmanovic aren't white then what the heck are they?
     

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