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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, Jun 18, 2006.

  1. basso

    basso Member
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    as long as it presents W in a negative light, truth be damned. making **** up? party on (jason) garth!

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/16/AR2006061601754.html

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    My Unwitting Role in the Rove 'Scoop'

    By Joe Lauria
    Sunday, June 18, 2006; B02

    The May 13 story on the Web site Truthout.org was explosive: Presidential adviser Karl Rove had been indicted by Special Counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald in connection with his role in leaking CIA officer Valerie Plame's name to the media, it blared. The report set off hysteria on the Internet, and the mainstream media scrambled to nail it down. Only . . . it wasn't true.

    As we learned last week, Rove isn't being indicted, and the supposed Truthout scoop by reporter Jason Leopold was wildly off the mark. It was but the latest installment in the tale of a troubled young reporter with a history of drug addiction whose aggressive disregard for the rules ended up embroiling me in a bizarre escapade -- and raised serious questions about journalistic ethics.

    In his nine-year reporting career, Leopold has managed, despite his drug abuse and a run-in with the law, to work with such big-time news organizations as the Los Angeles Times, Dow Jones Newswire and Salon. He broke some bona fide stories on the Enron scandal and the CIA leak investigation. But in every job, something always went wrong, and he got the sack. Finally, he landed at Truthout, a left-leaning Web site.

    I met Leopold once, three days before his Rove story ran, to discuss his recently published memoir, "News Junkie." It seems to be an honest record of neglect and abuse by his parents, felony conviction, cocaine addiction -- and deception in the practice of journalism.

    Leopold says he gets the same rush from breaking a news story that he did from snorting cocaine. To get coke, he lied, cheated and stole. To get his scoops, he has done much the same. As long as it isn't illegal, he told me, he'll do whatever it takes to get a story, especially to nail a corrupt politician or businessman. "A scoop is a scoop," he trumpets in his memoir. "Other journalists all whine about ethics, but that's a load of crap."

    I disagree, but I felt some sympathy for the affable, seemingly vulnerable 36-year-old. Before we parted, I told him a bit about myself -- that I freelance for numerous newspapers, including the Sunday Times of London. His publicist had earlier given him my cellphone number.

    Three days later, Leopold's Rove story appeared. I wrote him a congratulatory e-mail, wondering how long it would be before the establishment media caught up.

    But by Monday there was no announcement. No one else published the story. The blogosphere went wild. Leopold said on the radio that he would out his unnamed sources if it turned out that they were wrong or had misled him. I trawled the Internet looking for a clue to the truth. I found a blog called Talk Left, run by Jeralyn Merritt, a Colorado defense lawyer.

    Merritt had called Mark Corallo, a former Justice Department spokesman who is now privately employed by Rove. She reported that Corallo said he had "never spoken with someone identifying himself as 'Jason Leopold.' He did have conversations Saturday and Sunday . . . but the caller identified himself as Joel something or other from the Londay [sic] Sunday Times. . . . At one point . . . he offered to call Joel back, and was given a cell phone number that began with 917. When he called the number back, it turned out not to be a number for Joel."

    A chill went down my back. I freelance for the Sunday Times. My first name is often mistaken for Joel. My cellphone number starts with area code 917.

    I called Corallo. He confirmed that my name was the one the caller had used. Moreover, the return number the caller had given him was off from mine by one digit. Corallo had never been able to reach me to find out it wasn't I who had called. He said he knew who Leopold was but had never talked to him.

    I called Leopold. He gave me a profanity-filled earful, saying that he'd spoken to Corallo four times and that Corallo had called him to denounce the story after it appeared.

    When he was done, I asked: "How would Corallo have gotten my phone number, one digit off?"

    "Joe, I would never, ever have done something like that," Leopold said defiantly.

    Except that he has done things like that. His memoir is full of examples. He did break big stories, but he lied to get many of them. He admits lying to the lawyers for Enron executives Jeffrey Skilling and Andrew Fastow, making up stories to get them to spill more beans. "I was hoping to get both sides so paranoid that one was going to implicate the other," he wrote.

    I don't really know why Leopold may have pretended to be me to Corallo. I can only speculate that he either was trying to get a reaction and thought Corallo would be more likely to respond to a conservative-leaning mainstream paper, or he was trying to get Corallo to acknowledge that Rove had been indicted by bluffing that the Sunday Times had confirmed the story. In fact, Corallo told me that "Joel" told him that he had Fitzgerald's spokesman on the record about the indictment. He has also said he believes Leopold made up the whole story.

    Leopold still stubbornly stands by the story, claiming that something happened behind the scenes to overturn the indictment. Marc Ash, Truthout's executive director, said last week that his site will "defer to the nation's leading publications" on the Rove story, but he declared his continuing faith in Leopold.

    We may never know what really happened. Most mainstream news organizations have dismissed the Leopold story as egregiously wrong. But even if he had gotten it right and scooped the world on a major story, his methods would still raise a huge question: What value does journalism have if it exposes unethical behavior unethically? Leopold seems to assume, as does much of the public, that all journalists practice deception to land a story. But that's not true. I know dozens of reporters, but Leopold is only the second one I've known (the first did it privately) to admit to doing something illegal or unethical on the job.

    After reading his memoir -- and watching other journalists, such as Jayson Blair at the New York Times and Jack Kelley at USA Today, crash and burn for making up stories or breaking other rules of newsgathering -- I think there's something else at play here. Leopold is in too many ways a man of his times. These days it is about the reporter, not the story; the actor, not the play; the athlete, not the game. Leopold is a product of a narcissistic culture that has not stopped at journalism's door, a culture facilitated and expanded by the Internet.

    In the end, whatever Jason Leopold's future, he got what he appears to be crying out for: attention.
     
  2. SamFisher

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    I don't know why i'm a titular star on this thread. I don't believe I ever made any comments on this particular aspect and never vouched for this leopold guy who I have only vaguely heard of or his website; I don't read truthout or dailykos or any of that stuff.
     
  3. Ottomaton

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    You reap what you sow.

    Perhaps if arch-conservatives hadn't first done all these same unfair things that you are complaining about to Bill Clinton, then arch-liberals might not think its fair game to do it to W?
     
  4. Deckard

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    basso, Leopold sticks his head up his butt and looks the fool. What does that have to do with the thread you've been hammered repeatedly in, the Plame Affair? Leopold lets down his readers and those who got his info second hand. I've never read his blog, and have just seen him quoted here. Am I disappointed that Rove hasn't been indicted, yet? Sure. I think he's bent and broken the law, is immoral, and a ruthless b*stard, but hey... that's politics these days, unfortunately.

    I will add that, as far as I know, we haven't heard a damn thing from Fitzgerald about Rove's status, just stuff from his attorney. Rove's ultimate role in this, "kerfluffle," as you persist in calling it, is yet to be determined. I want whoever leaked Plame's status in the CIA in jail, and whoever lied to cover up the leak behind bars as well. That is all still playing out.



    Keep D&D Civil.
     
  5. Batman Jones

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    Same. I read kos but otherwise, same. I also have never posted anything here about Leopold or truthout. Apparently, to basso, if you think there's anything at all to the Plame affair, your credibility etc. is tied to Jason Leopold's. But then, basso's a crazy person.

    Same.
     
  6. FranchiseBlade

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    Basso, Mark who originally posted the Leopold stuff hasn't stuck by Leopold, and has mentioned that he, like you, was awaiting Leopold's naming of the sources.

    However, he was keeping an open mind and waiting for everything to run its course.

    Yet, as batman touched upon in his post, you seem to post anything involving Leopold as personal victory for you vs. the folks you named.

    The only problem is that the folks you named never took up Leopold's cause against you except maybe in the initial few posts. And it certainly wasn't as if they never budged from Leopold's position.

    Of course even if everyone said they still believed Leopold had written an accurate article, it wouldn't quite be that you had scored a victory on this issue. Because getting Rove was never the goal anyone on the left had. The goal was always to uncover the truth and find out who was responsible for blowing the cover an agent who was engaged in matters of protecting the U.S. national security. We do know from evidence presented that Plame was.
     
  7. gifford1967

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    The remarkable thing about the whole Leopold "kerfluffle" is that the left blogosphere, for the most part, did not run with it. The front page posters at Kos withheld judgement, FireDogLake, which has been extremely comprehensive in covering the Plame story, wrote that they could not confirm the story. In fact, when I first saw reference to Leopold's story, I went looking for further information on all of the lefty sites I usually check out and did not find ONE, that was confirming or supporting Leopold.

    Contrast this with the complete bs that often spreads like wildfire through wingnut sites, usually never to be corrected, and the left news and analysis sites come off looking pretty good. This probably explains why there are still wingers today who swear that we actually did find WMD in Iraq (though they always go strangely silent when you ask why the Bush administration isn't yelling this from every rooftop).
     
  8. mc mark

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    nice --

    Below are my responses to the Rove thread since Leopold's May 13th article.

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    mc mark -- if this falls through, I'll have to seriously take anything TO says in the future with a grain of salt.

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    Originally Posted by KingCheetah
    I wonder what happens to Leopold now ~ looks like he really humiliated himself.


    mc mark -- Sure does

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    mc mark -- I don't know what to think anymore –

    Who knows anymore? Leopold could be trying to save his ass or Rove and his lawyers are playing games. Either way, we'll all know soon enough when Fitz finally says something.

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    basso
    mark? where are jason's sources?


    mc mark -- Good Question. I'd like to know as well.

    To the board I apologize for posting seemingly wrong information.

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    Originally Posted by basso
    where are the sources? jason promised to name them. was that promise a lie?


    mc mark -- You know? I'm sure it's very important for you to make either me or Leopold look foolish.

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    Originally Posted by basso
    btw, whatever happend to those "sources" that were supposed to be revealed?


    mc mark -- Here ya go basso. Hopefully Leopold will release his sources. But TO seems to be standing by the story. I must admit it is all very strange.

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    I think we can safely say that I, along with everyone else, became skeptical about the Leopold story as it unfolded. And I'm not really sure what the premise of basso's thread is.

    But I do know that it is sad that basso once again falls for the tired and overused tact of slandering a critic of the administration to make cheap political points. . I’m not sure if believing one supposed coke head over another is the way to go about it though.
     

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