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I'm sorry.. Elizabeth Smart case is fishy!

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Fatty FatBastard, Mar 13, 2003.

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  1. Fatty FatBastard

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    Seeing Elizabeth after the ordeal is shocking.

    This is not about the typical Jazz ridicule.

    This is disturbing! As far as I'm concerned, I will never let a child across Utah's borders.

    I'm beginning to see a coverup like this country has never seen before.

    This is not the end of this story. We'll see what they uncover next. But no way in hell does a 15-16 year old kid who has been "kidnapped" for the past 8 months behave the way she has.

    I just about want to vomit.
     
  2. Two Sandwiches

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    Yeah, I was thinkin the same thing. Maybe a runaway, or something else, but now after reading in on it, I think it might really have been a kidnapping.
     
  3. montelwilliams

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    Maybe there was sexual abuse at home, so she ran away.
     
  4. TheHorns

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    I was thinking something was really weird about this too. I told my wife the same thing when she was abducted that she did not seem like a happy girl.

    I may be wrong but as a parent, when I see the girl on vacations and out on family outings on those videotapes you would expect to see some excitement or smiles. Watch the video loops they have been showing. She rarely smiles and when she does it seems to be a forced or fake smile. This is while she is out with her family at the beach or hiking.

    Then everything you hear her thus far from when they were reunited, all of her questions were about her siblings, and not so much her parents. I hope it is nothing more than the same separation most parents experience with teens, but at this time, I just find this to be a little odd.
     
  5. Cohen

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    Running-away requires the visit of an adult man to your bedroom in the evening?
     
  6. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I was thinking this is fishy also, I almost feel bad for thinking it, but isn't this girl 15? I mean, a grown man sneeking into a room and kidnapping a perfectly healthy fifteen year old while her parents are sleeping. And she shows up months later in perfect health. This case is very wierd.
     
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    One would think that unless she were tied up every night or never left alone, in 9 months there would have been at least one opportunity to break free.
     
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    That girl wanted to leave. She had no qualms about this "kidnapping".
     
  9. PhiSlammaJamma

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    I think we'd all be surprised how hard it is to escape, and some women are so brutally abused, they are too afraid to escape even when the door is left wide open for them. Kinda like an abused wife. It's a strange phenomena. Who's knows what is going on here, but it's not completely abnormal. This is between the family now. It's none of our business I guess.
     
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    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    I don't doubt its hard to escape, but this is abnormal, it is very rare for someone to be found alive after this long.
     
  11. TheHorns

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    I agree to an extent, but when you think about the Federal, state and local money that went into the search and ultimate discovery of her, I do not necessarily see it as an invasion of privacy if people press to find answers.

    Literally living behind the home within eyesight of her house for over two months according to what her father said this morning on television.
     
  12. Mr. Clutch

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    Did they interview her? I didn't see where she was asking questions.

    Maybe she is just a quiet, introverted girl.
     
  13. Mulder

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    According to recent reports...

    "... there was no way Elizabeth could have escaped because 'she said she had two people with her at all times."

    I also noticed this poll on CNN:

    Should Congress pass a national Amber Alert measure to aid in locating missing children?

    Yes 93% 72786 votes

    No 7% 5402 votes

    Why the hell would you vote NO on this? Are the 5402 all abductors out there just voting on this thinking "it would make it too hard for me to snatch little girls!"? :confused:
     
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    They spoke just to the father (I have not seen the mother in any interviews as of yet). The father hinted that at this time they are just letting her get re-adjusted to everything and letting her tell them things as she feels like it and not asking any questions.

    He did indicate that this group had been stopped by police before (possibly in another state) but when questioned she gave a fake name.
     
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    Even if she was perfectly healthy when she was abducted, wasn't it at gunpoint? Until something comes out that says different, I'm going to assume that this girl was kidnapped from a loving family, nothing more. Personally, I think it's sick to speculate otherwise, with no real evidence.
     
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    Not that it changes things much, but her father said Elizabeth told him it was not at gunpoint, he had a knife.
     
  17. DaDakota

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    Come on guys......

    You are reaching...a man, who calls himself Emanualle and sneaks into her bedroom carrying a gun and kidnaps her....there is the problem...not the girl.

    DD
     
  18. pgabriel

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    You're right DaDakota, the man still will be punished, but that doesn't take away from this story being abnormal, there will be more to it, maybe she was brainwashed, I'm not saying whatever the whole story is, she willingly stayed, I'm just saying this story is abnormal.
     
  19. Mrs. JB

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    Is there any such thing as a "normal" kidnapping?
     
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    Precisely, and I am not just speaking of the fact she was returned. I think there is a big twist to this story.
     

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