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I'm not defending the Mario Williams pick....

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Mattj, Nov 11, 2007.

  1. Mattj

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    But Vince Young looks a whole lot like Trent Dilfer on the 2000 Ravens right about now. I guess it's pretty obvious Albert Haynesworth is the most important player on the Titans. No Haynesworth, no run defense, no victory.
     
  2. RocketManJosh

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    I've never been a believer in VY, but it doesn't matter how he plays to some on this board. He is god. He has a few great intangibles, but overall as a QB, he is far from great.
     
  3. rhino17

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    im not saying vince played good, but you haveto admit, he has the WORST recieving core in the NFL. The whole passing game looks clueless most of the time
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    One game...one game...he will come around.

    DD
     
  5. Mattj

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    I'm not giving up on him...but it's not one game....he's having a bad season...One reason....Madden Curse.....
     
  6. ryan17wagner

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    Curses don't exist.
     
  7. jev5555

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    Tell that to Luis Castillo.
     
  8. ryan17wagner

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    I did. Now what?
     
  9. RocketFan007

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    Not to mention Bush is having a pretty terrible season as well. It's not a stretch to say that Mario is having the best season out of the top 3 picks.
     
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    What the hell has mario done? Not a damn thing. He is terrible!!!
     
  11. tulexan

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    As bad as Vince is, Reggie is worse. Where is the guy who was supposed to keep defensive coordinators up at night trying to figure out how to stop him?
     
  12. Mattj

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    Reggie's not great, but his numbers aren't terrible...After a bad afternoon today, he's still on pace for about 1,400 yards (rushing and receiving) and 10 TD's. The hometown hero that was missed on was obviously Joseph Addai. :D
     
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    I've never liked Vince Young's game.

    But I subscribe to the camp of "if we didn't want Young or Reggie, we should've traded the pick".
     
  14. RocketFan007

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    What has your boy Reggie Bush done this year? Averaging less than 4 yards a carry, only getting 5.5 yards per reception, and scoring only 5 TDs. I'd say Mario's 4 sacks at least equal what Bush has done this season.
     
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    Youre going to get flamed if you dare say anything negative about The Messiah on this board...

    ...I dont get it either...
     
  16. doboyz

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    I've come to the conclusion that Reggie Bush is a poor mans Dominick Davis (Williams), when he was healthy.
     
  17. hatemavs4life

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    Oh yeah, 7 carries for 17 yds vs the Lambs really qualifies Bush as a superstar.

    Color me, blah ... blah ... blah, baaaaaaaaaaddddd!!!

    Bush is more all blow and no show. Addai is a keeper and AP is looking good though he ran into the GB buzzsaw today! :D The Vikes need a REAL QB or AP may get run down like the Duke of Earl once was here.
     
  18. hatemavs4life

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    Eric Metcalf, Dave Meggett not a superstar!
     
  19. hatemavs4life

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    Have you even watched Mario at ALL this year? If Mario is terrible, then Reggie is pathetic. Got it? :rolleyes:
     
  20. El Toro

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    If you please, I would like to present my theory on the whole debacle concerning who the Texans should have drafted number one overall (yea I know it's over a year too late!) In doing such I liken the number one overall draft pick of Mario Williams to Harry Potter......please let me explain :D

    One of the themes of Harry Potter, which is better explained in The Deathly Hallows, is of destiny and faith and how much of how we live our lives is due to a predestined timeline versus the choices we make on a daily basis. When Harry learns about the prophecy that was made in which Harry was revealed to be the one who would destroy Lord Voldemert, the second half of the same prophecy (which as the readers know was never heard by Voldemert) stated that another child (Neville) also possessed the same characteristics and could potentially thwart Voldemert just the same. Voldemort assumed it was Harry that would destroy him and went after him with the killing curse, thereby marking Harry as the "Chosen One" and setting up the entire storyline as we know it today.

    The book argues that Harry may not have been the chosen one by faith or destiny, that it was Voldemort who chose to make Harry his equal by attacking him and effectively altering Harry's future from then on. Would Neville have possessed the same characteristics throughout the series if Voldemert went after him? Is this to say that the prophecy is flawed to begin with or justified because everything turned out as it should have?

    My point is this, what if Mario Williams was never picked number one overall? What if the draft order played out like most fans and "experts" believed it would (or should). Mario may have slipped to another team, probably in the top ten of the draft order, and the Texans would likely have had Vince Young or Reggie Bush and here we would be talking about how either of those individuals is capable and living up to the number one draft choice. Mario Williams would not have the kind of pressure placed onto him as the number one overall pick, slipping out of the top slot and possibly doing fairly well, putting up respectable numbers for non-top five pick team. While I don't think Mario will ever live up to the number one billing , I think he is preconceived to be fulfilling of the top pick status that probably should never have been placed on him, but we scrutinize it just the same. If things had played out differently on draft day, it's hard to how well the Texans would be doing. Ultimately I think it's up to Mario to play like he's worthy of the top pick and for the fans to realize there's no undoing the draft and hopefully support the team as it goes on.

    Ok, I'm done :cool:
     

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