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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by wizkid83, Jul 16, 2003.

  1. wizkid83

    wizkid83 Member

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    This is probably the busiest offseason in the last ten years and outside of JVG the Rox have done nothing, zelch, nada. The wolves added kandi, spurs got nosho, lakers went nuts, sun still get a first round pick (17th Zarko). Half the the playoffs teams last year improves and with the exceptions of the Jazz (thank god they suck now), Portland, Dallas, and Sac all have atleast the talent to be a contender.

    Maybe I'm spoiled by the constant moves the Rox have been used to making every offseason (last year ming, the year b4 mjax (attempt), the year before that MoT, before Shandon, Pipen, Charles ....etc). Regardless how some of those moves pan out, the Rox have always been able to make the fans feel the team is improving every offseason and atleast get us excited for the upcoming season, I haven't seen any thing close to that this year and I really wish we would make move of some sort going into the new arena.
     
  2. Lil Francis

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    Yeah thats true Wiz. People were talking bad about the Kings for not doing anything but they don't need anything. The Rockets on the other hand need a lot to make it in the west and looks like another year of trying to beat out the Suns and Sonics for the damn 8th spot.
     
  3. The Real Shady

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    There is no need to make moves until JVG gets to see first hand what he's working with. Once he gets to see them in action in his system he can make a judgement to which ones have a future here. My gut tells me that a move will be made before the trade deadline next season to bring in a veteran PF from a struggling team.
     
  4. SLA

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    Yeah......TWolves got Olowokandi. They are a better team than us...they were already without him.

    Spurs got Nesterovic. They get a little worse without David Robinson...but they are still better than us.

    Hmm...I think having Yao Ming is better.

    Point Guard: We have one of the best in the NBA and signed him to a long contract...we won't be trading him soon. We have a personal cheerleader with him.
    Shooting Guard: We have one of the top 10 shooting guards right here...
    Small Forward: Hopefully resign Posey...who is a perfect fit here...just needs some improvement on shooting. We got Nachbar...who still could become a good player. We have Glen Rice...nice veteran shooter.
    Power Forward:..........yeah...there's a problem there. All we need is a guy who can rebound and block shots and make open shots and easy baskets. Eddie can be that guy! Mo Taylor is an excellent backup.
    Center: Yao Ming is the 2nd best center in the NBA.

    We got a new coach...new logo....and a new arena.

    I hope we can make a "big splash"....but it won't happen.

    As long as Posey stays!!!
     
  5. sydmill

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    i agree with sla. we have enough talent to make the playoffs. we have the players we just have to do the right thing with them. steve and cuttino are as good as any backcourt in the league, yao will hopefully take a step forward in terms of conditioning and overall production, so that does leave the forward spots. posey has shown thathe can play with both the Franchise and ming, and although he isnt all world he is better than the average 3. boki really neds to do something to warrant his selection this season though.
    this is the year we determine what to do with EG. in my mind he is the most important variable in the rockets playoff equation. when he was traded here i was ecstatic, but i did think we would see much more than we have. granted, i think yao really r****ded EGs progress last year as we basically froze him out of the O. if EG does what he needed to do (BULK UP MOTHAFUCER!!!) and JVG/Ewing get him comfortable and confident i still see no reason he cant be a 12/8/2.5 player NEXT season. that combined with MoT's O and progression on D and on the boards would really help out a lot.
     
  6. Jeff

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    First off, we don't have any money to sign anyone in free agency, so there is no sense in complaining about that. If any deals are to be made, they will be through trades.

    But, given the luxury tax issues - and they are significant for probably 25 of the 29 teams - it shouldn't be a shock to anyone if teams wait for the major signings to happen before making moves.

    Besides, it is only day one of the free agency signing period. All the big names and big contracts go first. Everything that has been in the paper and on radio has indicated the Rockets probably wouldn't do much in free agency. This should be no shock to anyone.

    Also, we missed the playoffs last year by ONE GAME with a rookie big man and a 20-year old at power forward. Now, we have a new coach and a more experienced roster. There is the real possibility that we don't need to make any significant changes.
     
  7. rockets-#1

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    PLEASE STOP TALKING
     
  8. JayZ750

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    The Suns tanked the last few games, though it was close regardless. But if the argument is that just by getting a few (i.e. 3-8 games) better we will make the playoffs, I don't necessarily buy it. The only team I see dropping is Utah, but we're not the only team trying to get back into the playoffs (Seattle & Golden State specifically, others down the road).

    When you can't do anything, though, you can't do anything. I believe the Rockets will be better regardless, but how will the rest of the league be?
     
  9. R0ckets03

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    Maybe you should stop talking. What is wrong with SLA's statements?
     
  10. iball

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    ... and championship aspirations.
     
  11. Roc Paint

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    Don't let the door kick you in the *** on the way out.

    Go Rockets!! :)
     
  12. Yetti

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    You are not a Moderator of this Forum! You have no power! Therefore you are being RUDE to SLA and that the Moderators wont tolerate!
     
  13. JPM0016

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    why would JVG trade players he's never coached. Think about it, everything offensively and defensively will change. Players role will change as well. You have to see which players work well in the new system. All these people who throw out trades that are just ridiculous don't seem to understand that.
     
  14. SpaceCity

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    I'm always reading or hearing about how everyone else has gotten better because they picked up new people and that therefor we are getting left behind.

    I just don't see it that way. Making line-up changes does guarantee that said team has gotten better. If you are a lontime Rocket fan, or any team for that matter, you should know tht nothing is guaranteed. Just about every year we've made major changes to the lineup and what has it gotten us?

    Changing the entire coaching staff is enough of a change to satisfy me for now. No one can argue that we are loaded with talent. All last year everyone complained that all that talent was be wasted by the coaching staff. Well, Les did something about it.

    Now we wait and see.

    If all those people were correct, then it should be assumed that we will be a better team. It has to be assumed that Yao will be a better NBA player this coming season. His improvement alone will do wonders for our chance to make a splash in the playoffs. It must also be assumed that Francis and Mobley will be better players. Why? Because every year that they have been in the league they have shown improvement. JVG will help guide their improvement. Mobley showed us at the end of last season that he can play solid D when he puts his mind to it. VJG will make sure that both he, Steve and Moochie will play smarter. As hard as it is to believe, we should also assume that EG will be a better player. He'll have had another year under his young belt and now he will have Ewing giving him guidance. MoT showed us a nearly-unstoppable hook shot in the last severqal weeks of the season. In fact, it was MoT who carried us when no one else could make a shot.

    My point is that there is a great chance that we will become a much better team by not adding yet another new starter to the team.

    There is no guarantee that LA will become the greatest team of all time. I don't care what Payton and Malone say right now, it is hard to undo your style of play just like that. Kobe and Shaq have a hard enough time player together. Now add 2 more hall of famers and stir, and wait and see what happens.

    Seattle has made too mant moves to their roster. No way can anyone assume that they will be a better team than us. Lewis is not that big of a stud. Allen is a great shooter but what has he proven. He's been in better line-ups that have failed in the long run.

    Phoenix's season rests on the shoulders of Penny. If he goes down with a nother injury, they are in trouble.

    Minnesota may or may not be a better team. 'Kandi has yet to prove that he nothing more than a big body. Cassell is dangerous and teamed with Garnett becomes even more dangerous. Sam has a little experience player with a dominant big man. I believe that it is they who we will be fighting with for the 5th seed.

    Utah is gone. I think it is finally safe to assume that they will not make the playoffs. If they even come close, it will be a crime to not give Sloan coach of the year honors.

    Golden State will not be better than us. Period.

    Portland is a mystery. I want to say that we will do better than them but I just don't know. They're always in the playoffs no matter who they have.

    It's probably safe to assume that we are competing for the 5th seed. LA, SA, SAC, and DAL will most likely be the top 4 teams again but it is not written in stone. All it takes is one key injury or one classic meltdown to change the race.

    Regardless of what happens to everyone else, we are going to be in for a fun ride this season.

    We will have a better record and we will be in the playoffs. The fun part will be seeing just how dangerous we will be once we are there.
     
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  15. JPM0016

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    well said SpaceCity
     
  16. SpaceCity

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    Thanks. Figures though, whenever I do put some thought into a post and spend some time typing it out, it goes away and no one replies. :p
     
  17. krocket

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    I like the Rox the way they are for the present. I still remember when there were several prominent 'elderly' superstars that wanted to ride Hakeem's coattails to a 'RING'. Clyde did because we had the chemistry and he added to it instead of competing with it. Others, that came later failed because of one reason or another. I think Dallas and SAC are very fragile teams that may not be as successful two or three years in a row.

    SAC may be without Webber for awhile, LA may be without Byant for a long time since the girl got to the DA before the Lakers could get to the girl. Dallas is one injury away from a very average team. The T-wolves may have helped themselves the most, but it may not show 'til next year. Portland, Seattle I just don't know.

    The Rox should be better just from a year together. They have talent, they have depth, the chemistry is the big ? still. I would like to see Yao play more on instinct than thinking what to do all the time. I would like to see Stevie and Cat think more and play less on instinct. I would like to see 'Bad Man' stay here this year and get PF experience instead of C experience in Germany. I haven't seen him play, but the eyewitness reports are good reviews and I really like the hustle factor that is being attributed to him. It would surely help him and maybe help us to have a big body to bring in. BTW, either his head is small or he has a very large, angular body that looks like a coiled spring. He could put on 20 pounds, which BTW is very difficult for a younger player to do, and you couldn't even tell it.

    I guess we ought to relax, let JVG and his crew do their job, and see if we like the result. EG ought to have his break-out year this year. Bryant, McGrady, Garnet et. al. took a couple of years to get thier NBA legs after high school. MoT was catching up to what he use to be toward the end of the year and should be an offensive force this year. Long distance shooting may still be a weak spot, but maybe they'll pickup Piatkowski to help there. Let's say, for the present, that Mooch had a sophmore jinx ( seems to happen after multi-million dollar contract signings ) and maybe he'll return to his former self this year.

    I want to see see what is going happen with the parts we have already before we rush off willy-nilly grabbing inferior people with big contracts as we have before. New coachesand new system, that is enough for the present, I say.
     
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  18. zoork34

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    for real yall, get some patience. its pretty obvious that the rockets are not going to be a top playoff seed for at least 2-3 years. we are just gonna have to wait our turn for a run at the title. if we keep our team together and get some good chemistry going, i think really good things can happen. give EG some time to develop, same with crazy badiane africa man, and i think in a few years the rockets will have a great shot to be at the top of the west, especially if kobe leaves the lakers.
     
  19. Ottomaton

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    Nothing was worse than six months of waiting on Shandon Anderson's "imminent decision". That was far more painful than this situation where we all understand going in that we are fishing in the kiddy pond and don't have much bait.
     

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