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If you were Timmy P what would you do?

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by The Real Shady, Jul 7, 2006.

  1. The Real Shady

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    It's time to play Astros GM everyone. The trade deadline will soon be approaching and this will likely be the last season with Roger and Andy on the roster. What moves would you make?

    Taking a quick look at our pitching it's obvious we have an abundance of 3-4-5 big league starting caliber pitchers. As of now we've got -

    1. Roy O
    2. Clemens
    3. Pettite
    4. Buchholz
    5. Wandy
    6. Backe
    7. Hirsh

    We've got 4 pitchers that are capable of being our #4 & #5 guys.

    Carl Crawford IS on the market according to ESPN and other sporting news outlets, and the D-Rays want pitching in return. It's time to use our surplus at pitching to land a premier outfielding hometown product.

    I would offer Hirsh, Wandy, and Jason Lane.

    Keep Hirsh in the minors until the trade deadline and let him keep dominating AAA talent. He currently has a 2.28 ERA and 10-2.

    Wandy has 9 Wins and is a capable 4-5 pitcher in the bigs.

    Whether Jason Lane would be enough to land this deal I don't know. What I do know is that Hunsicker liked Lane and he's now with the D-Rays.

    Maybe Nieve would have to be included instead of Wandy. Point is it's time for Purpura to earn his keep.
     
  2. WallofYao

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    I think we should try to get Crawford and D-train if that rumor was true about Dontrelle. To get Dontrelle we should give them Wandy and Jimerson for him, then trade Lane, Springer, and MIller, if that can work, you bring up Hirsch and Sampson to the bullpen or wait till Backe comes back and put Buccholz instead of Hirsch in the bullpen.
     
  3. JunkyardDwg

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    Hirsch is our best prosect down there, right? so I wouldn't wanna throw him in any deal. I think you gotta look at the logjam we have on the team currently. I wouldn't be opposed to packaging Wandy and Lane in a deal...with maybe Taveras. You almost have to give up a position player cause that'll create a logjam on the field. Lamb needs at-bats, which would essentially move Berkman to the outfield, which puts Lane on the bench. The infield is pretty much set assuming the team stays patient with Ensberg. You almost have to fill the center field spot or the right field position and platoon Lamb and Burke.
     
  4. rikesh316

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    Give up anybody on the Astros for Carl Crawford but Berkman, Oswalt, Clemens, Petitie, Lidge. Crawford is a star and will only get better. This dude is could make a huge impact on this teams lineup. He is hitting more home runs every year and is still young. Get him Timmy. I think Hirsh, Nieve, Lane, and Paul Estrada could get the job done.
     
  5. JunkyardDwg

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    Where would you put Dontrelle. This team has ..or will have when Backe returns the same starting rotation as last season, if not a little better cause Buccholz is better than Wandy or Zeke. I think our pitching is doing fine; what we need is a hitter, which could put us in good position since teams almost always need arms.
     
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    I have a feeling the Astros will acquire Alfonso Soriano for Wandy, Hirsh, and Lane.
     
  7. No Worries

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    Hirsh is not going to be traded. The Astros would certainly include Willy T in any trade for Crawford. Nieve or Wandy (especially if he drops out of the starting rotation when Backe comes back) plus Willy T should be enough to get the job done.

    Crawford is having a career year so whoever does this trade will overpay.
     
  8. Hey Now!

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    yeah, so would i and any other person registering half a heartbeat above death. but the d-rays would never says yes. a jewel of a prospect and junk for carl crawford?

    it'd take hirsch, nieve or buccholz and pence, and i'd do that in a nanosecond. in fact, they'd have to invent a new measurement for time to accomodate how supremely quickly i'd do that deal.
     
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    With Clemens and Pettite retiring in the next couple of years, we are going to need top line pitching more than ever, which is why you have to hold on to Hirsh. I think we should also consider keeping Nieve and not including him as a throw-in in a deal.
     
  10. Hey Now!

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    i just showered my computer monitor with diet dr. pepper. a career year... at 24, when a quick check of his stat line would reveal his 2006 #'s are an obvious progression.
     
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    Why won't Hirsh be traded? He hasn't proved nothing in the big leagues yet. I don't think the D-Rays want Willy T. They have a lot of better outfielders in their system like Badelli, Dukes, Young, and gomes. Nieve or Wandy and Willy Taveras wouldn't get us Crawford. Crawford is going be a star if he isn't one already.
     
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    Really a career year and he is only played 5 seasons. Crawford is special.
     
  13. WallofYao

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    yeah we should throw in Willy T, beacuse then we could move Wilson back to CF and put Crawfor at LF, I think Willy T, Lane, Springer or MIller will make the trade work, and if we were to get D-Train you put either Backe or Buccholz in the pen. Our bullpen hasnt been doing that good, so we need starters that can last long liek D-train.

    1. Clemens
    2. Oswalt
    3. D-train
    4. Pettite
    5. Buccholz or Backe
     
  14. The Real Shady

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    To get a star like Crawford I don't see any way that Hirsh could not be included in the deal. I think the D-Rays would require that he's included.

    If we did add Crawford I would start platooning Lamb with Ensberg at 3rd in the lineup. With Lamb always being in the lineup either at 1st or 3rd. Also, I would move Biggio into the middle of the lineup.
     
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    I would fire Gaetti.
     
  16. rocketfat

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    uhhh...i can guarantee you that if he they trade him, they will not be getting a better deal than hirsch, wandy and lane/taveras.
     
  17. Hey Now!

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    please stop posting.

    uhhhh... really? you think the d-rays are going to take $.35 on the dollar for one of the game's best players under 25? wandy has an ERA near 5; lane and taveras are junk. if either were worth a damn, they wouldn't be on our bench and we sure as hell wouldn't need to deal for crawford.
     
  18. The Real Shady

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    I would be cool with Hirsh, Wandy, and Pence. Or I would do Hirsh, Buchholtz, and Lane.
     
  19. rocketfat

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    ummm....wandy and taveras are both in their 2nd year in Major League Baseball, and capable of improvement, ON TOP of a blue-chipper in Hirsch.

    once again, I GUARANTEE you that if the d-rays trade crawford, that offer is better than anything they will get.
     
  20. JunkyardDwg

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    Gaetti helped Preston bump his average back up to .280
     

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