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If you were the Lakers and Grizzlies......

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by jopatmc, Feb 2, 2007.

  1. jopatmc

    jopatmc Member

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    Would you do this trade?


    Gasol for Bynum, Mihm, McKie, and one more small contract and the Lakers #1?

    Memphis would wind up with Bynum, plus a very good shot at Durant, plus Mike Miller in the backcourt and another player from the Lakers pick and a ton of cap space to go after Carter or possibly another free agent or two.

    Lakers wind up with Kobe, Odom, Gasol, as their big 3, along with Kwame and other parts, an over the cap team that could add a nice piece with the MLE.


    If I am Memphis, and LA gives me expirings, a #1 and Bynum, I take it. In fact, even if they don't throw in the #1, I seriously consider it.

    If I am the Lakers, don't know. Pao alongside Lamar and Kobe is tempting.
     
  2. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Jerry West isnt that old yet...
     
  3. baller4life315

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    Gasol isn't even a career 20/10 player. He's one of those stars that are good but not great. That being said, it's a fair trade proposal for both sides since it should make the Lakers immediate contenders and in the long run I feel Bynum will end up being a much better player than Gasol so it makes sense to get a building block plus a #1 since the Grizzlies are rebuilding.
     
  4. jopatmc

    jopatmc Member

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    Tsk, Tsk.

    Don't know what you mean by too old. West could save his job with the future owners and not only that but make Heisley a lot of money, if he did that trade and then followed it up by dumping another contract like Stoudamire's or Cardinal's for expirings. He would be sitting on a payroll of less than $30 million for 07-08, he could go hard after two big time free agents like Carter and Billups. How about that squad? Billups and Carter in the backcourt, Gay/Miller at the swing position, Bynum in the middle, and possibly Durant at the 4 with Warrick and another #1 coming off the bench? Or how about Bibby instead of Billups? He gets Carter and a guy like Durant in the draft to stack alongside Bynum, and the rest of the capspace he would have to spend, he could put together a pretty crazy, young team.
     
  5. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    the offer from the lakers is better than what phily got for AI. for that reason alone i am convinced that the grizz would HAVE to take it.

    nice trade idea for both sides.
     
  6. jopatmc

    jopatmc Member

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    ........and it's just the type of trade that West could pull off. And the setup of doing it with his old team. He thrusts the Lakers into contender status. And he magically transforms his club in one year and probably at least doubles the value of his franchise.
     
  7. A_3PO

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    This trade favors the Grizz. Bynum is on rookie contract and has a higher ceiling than Pau. The Grizz would definitely do that trade. The Lakers might because it would have an immediate impact.
     
  8. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    yes. i forgot to add in my last post...

    a frontcourt of bynum, warrick, and gay is VERY temping. they have a post player, a slasher, all of them are rebounders, shot blockers, great athletes.

    they get thier own #1 which would probably add to the frontcourt (oden, durrant, etc..) and the lakers #1 in which they can add to the backcourt.

    i'm not sure if anyone would take cardinal for expirings but i'm sure you can find a taker for stoudamire (rockets, spurs, pistons?).

    even without the space for 2 max contracts, lets say they have enough for 1 max and another large contract. they could go after a ticket seller like vince and a young PG like mo williams.

    meanwhile, the lakers would probably be better off with odom as a 3rd option. with gasol, odom, walton, kobe, parker starting... and kwame, turiaf, radman, evans, farmar off the bench... they'd still have cook and vujacic as 11th and 12 guys. that's a DEEP team who can run and gun or dump it into the post.
     
  9. m_cable

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    Not a bad trade for either side. Gasol would be a good fit in the triangle since he's a decent passer and likes to operate in the mid-post where the triangle is usually run. That group could beat anybody in a series if Kobe gets hot. And the Grizz put themselves on the fast track towards rebuilding with some quality young pieces and a couple draft picks in a purportedly strong draft.
     
  10. xiki

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    IMO Grizz can, and will, do better than this.
     
  11. A_3PO

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    Good points about how this helps the Lakers. If this trade happens, all they need to do is get a new starting PG and they could be a really sick team.
     
  12. Laozi

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    Right, what the Celtics have been offering is already better then this, plus Bynum has shown an equal amount of love form snack foods as he has for basketball.
     
  13. plutoblue11

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    Gasol is not going to the Lakers, The Grizzys won't give Gasol away for unproven young players and average ballelrs. Gasol to a team that has alot to offer, like a Chicago, Miami, or even New York.
     
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    As of now he is a 20/8 player this season. And that is coming off of a broken foot and leading Spain to the world championship (though missed final game). He is a great player, but I somewhat agree with you. I think he made the all-star team last year and did not play well in the game at all.
     
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    Hakeem never played well in an Allstar game. Most low post players have a hard time cause everyone in the game is so selfish.

    Gasol will not be traded for unproven talent. point blank.
     
  16. kaleidosky

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    Any Celtics deal woudl be better. Any Bulls deal would be better.

    Even the Blazers rumored offer of Aldridge, Rodriguez, and Magloire is better.
     
  17. jopatmc

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    Come on man. Blazers didn't offer. West did. Blazers refused. Celtics ain't giving up a pick. West is looking for a superstar or a potential superstar. Al Jefferson or Bynum? Sorry, Bynum has the superstar potential, Jefferson just another occasional All-Star. Ainge gives up a couple mediocre stars, gets back Gasol to go with Pierce and a shot at Oden and Durant. Memphis gets back mediocrity. That's not West's style. He understands you don't win with mediocrity in the NBA. Jerry West is a great GM. Don't forget it.
     
  18. A_3PO

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    Jerry West has not been a great GM since joining the Grizzlies. All he's ever had on that team is a bunch of mediocre and slightly above-average players, besides Pau. That's why they haven't won ONE single playoff game. Giving money to players like Brian Cardinal wasn't a good idea. Whatever he gets for Pau will be his crowning achievement in his years as Grizzlies GM. Not much of a legacy, assuming he leaves after this season.
     
  19. smoothie

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    yes except who says those teams are willing to make a deal?

    look at what phily got for iverson: miller, smith (expiring), 2 #1's.

    yes iverson is older, but he's a bonified superstar unlike gasol who's rarely even an all-star. i would say the grizz should expect even less then this, but phily was forced to trade AI quickly and so teams low balled them. for that reason i think the grizz might get a similar package.

    future picks, expirings, maybe a good player too. this trade from the lakers has it all. bynum, expirings, picks. that would've been enough to land AI for sure.

    the bulls won't overpay by trading gordon or deng, so the grizz aren't interested in the bulls. the C's aren't trading any picks (you know ainge) and they surely aren't giving up green, rondo, or jefferson. so will they trade wally (expiring), telfair, and another guard? probably not better than getting bynum.

    the blazers could make the best offer, but do they really need thier top 2 options scoring from the post. that never works. i don't tihnk they'd be interested in gasol unless to trade him again this summer.
     
  20. windfern

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    neither team will get any help. A useless trade.
     

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