Set up your rotation for the NLCS, here;s mine: Game 1: Pete Munro Game 2: Backe Game 3: Clemens Game 4: Oswalt Game 5: Backe Game 6: Clemens Game 7: Oswalt After seeing Clemens and Oswalt struggle on three day's rest, I don't want to risk Backe in game 1. Here's hoping we can get 4 or 5 solid innings from Pete, then turn it over to the bullpen. That leaves Backe on full rest for game 2, followed by Clemens and Oswalt on five days at home. I really like our chances if we can take one of the first two.
i worry about munro in game 1 of course , this is where it hurts a bit to not have a clemens-oswalt-miller-pettitte out there however, we got here with what we got and damnit let's advance with what we've got that being said though, beats me as to who we should send out there in game 1. some probables were putting backe as the likely starter for game 1. as long as we split the series in st.louis , then one of the two should be able to pick up a win regardless of who's switched around for games 1 and 2.
Looks ok....I just wonder if everyone is getting too caught up in this 3 days rest deal. Teams used to go with 4 man rotations all the time. DD
eh, beats me.... oswalt certainly looked like he was feeling the 3 days rest...... while clemens looked like he did as well however, I think both on a nice 5 days rest before their first starts, will enable both of them to make pretty good 2nd starts in the series.
And Cy Young used to pitch nine innings in both games of a double header. Modern pitchers just aren't used to pitching on three days rest, this can be seen in Clemens and Oswalt getting tired and being able to go only 5 the last two games. If that's what Clemens and Oswalt look like on three days rest, I rather go with Munro in game 1 and a rested Backe in game 2.
I'd run: 1) Munro 2) Clemens (3 days rest) 3) Oswalt (full rest) 4) Backe 5) Munro 6) Clemens (full rest) 7) Oswalt (full rest) I don't think you risk Backe on short rest. He isn't an ace. And by using Clemens/Oswalt in games 2 and 3, you only end up with 1 pitcher on short rest during the season instead of 2.
Wont it be better to pitch Munro Game 1? and Let Backe have a 4 day rest. If he gets tired early then we could have a prob in game 1 and then we have to use Munro in game 2?? If that's the case then why not use Munro game 1 and give Backe more rest to go game 2?
I have a feeling that we're playing right into St. Louis' hands on this one. Definite advantage goes to the Cards, with Backe on three days rest. In addition, this just leads to a slippery slope, if we lose game 1, we likely will once again throw Clemens in Game 2 on three days rest. We could leave St. Louis down 0-2 and wasted our best pitcher. As I mentioned in another thread, pitch Munro in game 1 and then sep up your rotation for the rest of the series. Of course, this all is a moot point if Backe beats the odds and wins Wednesday.
Sam: I'm just messing with you...but I don't think you can pitch Clemens 2 times in a row on 3 days rest. Argh, I almost wish games 3 and 4 were on fri/sat instead of sat/sun Then have sunday off...and be able to give Roy O and Clemens their full rest. No matter what, we either get Roy/Roger 4 times, at least one/two of the starts on 3 days rest.... or Roy/Roger 3 times....on full rest. This all is a wash if we just win it in 4-5 I think it'll just have to be day to day.
Yeah I don't agree with this move at all. By pitching Munro in Game 1 and Munro in game 2, you can give Backe, Clemens and Oswalt normal rest. I know that Backe threw under 80 pitches in his Saturday start, but this guy isn't on that level yet in my opinion. If I'm Garner I go with Munro 4 IP, and Hernandez 2 IP in Game 1. I know Phil has been doing things unconventional but this three days rest on a regular basis is just getting rediculous. Let your horses rest whne the opportunity presents it self. Trust the offense a little more.
If we had only held on to the lead in Game 4... Game 1: Oswalt(full rest) Game 2: Backe (full rest) Game 3: Clemens (full rest) Game 4: Munro Game 5: Oswalt(full) Game 6: Backe (full) Game 7: Clemens (full) Oh well, at least we made it.
Damn it! I realize those ****ing Braves really screwed us over by winning game 4. That rotation looks much better than what it's going to be in reality. I think the Astros are even with the Cardinals if not better than them; unfortunately, the way our rotation will go, it's got a good shot at keeping the better team from winning.
Wasn't Hernandez left off the playoff roster? I'm pretty sure he was. Here is my two options for the next series: Option 1: Game 1: Munro (with lots of rest) Game 2: Backe (on normal rest) Game 3: Clemens (on 1 day extra rest) Game 4: Oswalt (on 1 day extra rest) Game 5: Backe (on short rest) Game 6: Clemens (on short rest) Game 7: Oswalt (on short rest) Option 2: Game 1: Backe (on short rest) Game 2: Clemens (on short rest) Game 3: Oswalt (on normal rest) Game 4: Munro (on normal rest) Game 5: Backe (on normal rest) Game 6: Clemens (on 1 day extra rest) Game 7: Oswalt (on normal rest) I honestly believe we should go with Option 2 there ... We get Oswalt/Clemens to pitch 4 times (3 times on full rest), and we get Munro and Backe on full rest with Backe having to go short once. I think it is going to be even more important to have Clemens and Oswalt fresh towards the end of the series if we are going to have a chance to win this. We just have to hope that our offense can carry us in the games where Backe/Munro pitch (as well as the Clemens short rest game)
Clemens barely got through 5 innings on 3 days rest...no way in hell you run him out there back to back on 3 days.
Munro in game 1 and Backe in game 2 is the best option IMO. If we can split that, then we come home with Clemens and Oswalt taking the mound for games 3 and 4. I like the sound of that.
