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If we're tanking let's move Scola too.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by SamFisher, Jul 2, 2009.

  1. SamFisher

    SamFisher Member

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    Closing in on 30.
    Cheap.
    Invaluable role player
    Stock is super high right now after playoff performance

    By the time the rebuilding project bears fruit, he'll be on the downside, let's cash in.

    Either move him alone or with Battier as a sort of role player deluxe package, throw in a third team and grab some younger chips/picks.

    I love the guy but I don't want to condemn him to sucking during his prime years.
     
  2. FishBulb913

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    We're not tanking! We are rebuilding!! ;)
     
  3. Big MAK

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    I partly agree. I never agree with tanking a season to get a higher draft pick, that is the most pu$$y **** crap I've ever heard. But I'm ok with trading him for some potential young stars in order to rebuild this team. But never trade a great player for a bag of peanuts in order to lose games. If we are rebuilding, get a couple rookies or 1-2 seasoned players for him and battier.
     
  4. Jeff Who

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    That's a good idea if we want to rebuild, but the problem is after playing as great as he did, he is one of the most underrated players in the NBA so I don't think we would get good pieces for him.
     
  5. VooDooPope

    VooDooPope Love > Hate

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    I missed the news flash. Who decided we are tanking?

    Not singling the OP out but there are a bunch of "fans" around here freaking out.
     
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  6. FishBulb913

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    Agreed. I am 100% on the rebuilding bandwagon, 0% on the tanking one, and 0% on the "we can still win this year with no Yao, Tracy, or Ron bandwagon don't give up!"
     
  7. jae713

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    I think Scola is gonna be one of those players that stay productive for a long time. He is very durable and relies on skill more than physical talent to be effective. So getting older wont affect his game as much as a player who only has physical attributes.
     
  8. Carl Herrera

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    The question is what kind of "rebuilding" we are talking about.

    Are we talking "seeing what we can get on the 2010 FA market" rebuilding or "drafting Curry/Chandler" rebuilding?

    In the latter case, I agree. In the former, we can wait a year before deciding.
     
  9. FishBulb913

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    I would think his value would be at its peak? He is in his prime and he played the best basketball of his career in one of the most intriguing series' in the playoffs with the entire league watching.
     
  10. J.R.

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    When Morey is/was going after Gortat to be the backup to Yao but then says he would probably now be our starter, good sign Yao is out. Also when Morey reportedly only offers Ron Artest a 1 year deal? Good sign that we're looking toward the future. When Yao and T-Mac are going to miss half, if not all of next season, chances theyre already looking to next offseason. Morey or anybody else probably wont come out and say we're rebuilding, but its a clear sign to me that they are looking ahead. Maybe its just me though.
     
  11. hhh345

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    even if we rebuilt i still would want the rockets to keep scola.
     
  12. JayZ750

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    I'm one of the biggest fans of Scola out there, and I'm on-board with the analysis...DEPENDING on the next moves.

    He may be 30, but he's a "young" 30. Frankly, with or without Yao or tanking, I think he should be a moveable piece, but it depends on what you think you can do with some of your assets.

    For example, the earlier Amare speculation. Makes no sense as to why Brooks' name kept popping up. I'd have thought a T-Mac+Scola for Amare+J. Richardson type deal would have been more of the rumor. Both Amare and Richardson have huge contracts for 2 more years, whereas Scola and Tracy only have the one year left, and if you're going to get Amare, it makes more sense to include the PF in the deal then the PG who you have no replacement for coming back.

    So, if somehow Tracy+ is turned into a PF (Amare, Bosh)...which seems unlikely at this point, then I see no reason not to include Scola as that plus, or in another deal. He becomes way less important, then.

    If we rebuild by improving the PF position? Even then?
     
  13. Williamson

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    I was just thinking about this. If we're rebuilding, both Scola and Battier need to go. I love them both, but there is no point in keeping them if we're rebuilding. None. I'd root for them where ever they landed.
     
  14. stipendlax

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    This.
     
  15. Old Man Rock

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    Not tanking in the sense that we deliberately play bad. But not signing Artest offerring Brooks and Battier for an 18 year old kid and not resigning Wafer are all signs of a team looking towards the future with very little interest in putting the best team possible on the court now. It doesn't mean they won't try to win but there is a good chance in the West with the team Morey is assembling we should be Lottery bound.
     
  16. jev5555

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    Without Yao we win maybe 40+ games. "IF" We get Yao back next year and then add Chris Bosh + a lottery pick...all of a sudden we have retooled in one year.

    Luis would be a big piece to the puzzle so I have to be against moving him. I imagine there is a market for him but nothing that will net you a superstar player. Prob another role player and we have plenty of those.
     
  17. crimsonghost

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    At least if Scola stays you know there will be some fight in the Rockets next year no matter what happens.
     
  18. Old Man Rock

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    Let us get this straight. We are talking about a 1 year rebuild. I suspect we will pickup a player like Joe Johnson or Chris bosh in the summer of 2010 and Yao will be back. Plus the one thing we will need to do this season is get a decent backup for Yao so he can limit his minutes and we will get a pretty decent rookie from the draft and our young players now will have another. My hope is that Dorsey becomes a serviceable big.

    So next year we should have a team like this.

    Yao, Gortat, Dorsey
    Scola, Landry, Leunen
    Joe Johnson, Budinger
    Taylor, White, Lottery, Draft Pick
    Rubio, Lowry, LLull
     
  19. rocketsmetalspd

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    Tanking who said the team is tanking. The season has not even begun and already the sky is falling. This team will not quit and Morey will have this team ready to compete. I still have hope that Yao will be back afer his surgery in Feb. 2010. "Have faith and never give up, because we all are defenders of the faith".
     
  20. v3.0

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    It all depends on if Yao will be with us in the future. If he is, then Scola is a great compliment to Yao. If not, then it might be a good idea to find the best deal for Scola...IF we are rebuilding through the draft...and not retooling through free agency/trades that gets us in contention sooner then later and Scola might still be able to help in that scenario.
     

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