If We Have the Chance to Get Ming, We Need to Do It and Here's Why

Like I posted in another thread, I'm not completely sold on Yao Ming. I've heard everything from he's the second coming to huge bust. I'm all for getting an impact player, but does Yao Ming fit the bill? How long would it take him to adjust to the NBA game, which is much quicker than the Chinese style of play (so I've heard). Not to mention the fact that I think that if he is the real deal, I don't think teams will be in a hurry to trade away there chance for him. i know for a fact that New York is pining hard for this guy, Scott Layden has gone to China twice to see him playing (during the ongoing NBA season). I wouldn't trade Cat at this point, he is too big of a cog to trade at this point.

 

first off im in favor of keeping the team how it is...i would like to see the team healthy and think we have enough pieces of the puzzle...

but to awnser your question I think our first round draft pick and KT should be sufficient to move up and get him. maybe even add a 2nd round pick but not another first round pick and not mobley. i also dont see ming even starting for us. a bcakup to cato but with rudys new love for small ball i see a bulked up eddie getting some playing time at center.

 

I love Yao Ming. Seventeen years ago, the Rockets got a blessing from Nigeria. Wouldn't it be nice if in 2002, we got to live in the same nostalgia and get a gift from China?

 

something about ming really intrigues me even though i've never once seen him play. i can only judge him on scouting reports. i wouldn't want to give up mobley either, but would our pick and kt get the job done? i only put in kenny because he's very talented and his contract is nice. i think alot of teams have interest in him. my question is, would you rather have ming or odom, if they both were presented? right now i'd say odom but yesterday it was probably ming. also who did the rockets have in the middle when they won the championships? seems like we rode the jet to those.

 

I've never seen him play, but I have a really good feeling about him. I don't know why, but I'm with you BigM.

Imagine the shotblocking tandem of Ming and Griffin!!! HOLY COW!!!

 

Jared Novak, the CBA plays a lot like some euro bball... they can get physical but not exactly in a way which utilizes a good amount of hip/leg... lots of kinky passes, but a lack of athletic explosiveness sometimes. i wouldn't mind losing mobley... i always wish the rocks would pick up one of those athletic all round defenders with some smarts and create more on D and who can somewhat play transition (i always dream of ron artest replacing mobley)

[off topic : phillipino bball is really awesome... they play all over the country in small villages and jump like crazy... got a guy on san miguel who shoots like allan houston when he's on fire and actually defends]

i've seen dozens and dozens of yao ming's game and with the supposed lack of depth in the draft, i'd say he's an ok risk to take. he's not gonna put on much more weight so he's not gonna eventually bruise shaq even. but he is super tall... he's got a 10 outta 10 knack for blocks and doesn't whine like bradley. he's tough and runs the floor a lot actually. and like all chinese bball players... he'll hit his good amount of freethrows.

 

btw, i've seen yao ming get multiple 7+ block games... i don't care what league u're in... that's still pretty stunning

 

i was even more intersted in a ming, cato, griffin shot-blocking team until i was reminded that cato can only play during the pre-season and trade deadlines.

 

crossover,
how healthy do you think he is? Do you know if he has a history of injuries at all?
NBAdraft.net has him at a good 280lbs. I hear he still gets pushed around. What do you think about his ability to hold his man?
How fast is he?
And is he a good 3pt. shooter? I know he has the range, but can he become good hitting from away?
I wonder if Scott Layden is tanking to get Ming. Hmmmm...

 

crossover, thanks for the info, hopefully as we get closer to the draft we'll start to hear and hopefully see more things about Yao Ming. As for Layden tanking to get Yao, I gotta believe that if the Knicks get a top three pick that the lottery is rigged.

 

Yao Ming another Wang ?

Not to doubt Ming's abilities, but is he just a bigger version of Wang up in Dallas? I've seen Wang play and he is a long way off from being a dominant force in the middle.

So whats up? is Yao Ming another wang?

 

He can hit the 3. He's a good passer. He's not incredibly strong, but can hold his own.


But Yao Ming is FAR FAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR from being an impact player. He can be our backup C for a a year and a half or 2 though.


But again. Give up both picks (ours and tor) and KT for Yao Ming and a 2nd rounder.

It's worth it. When he's done developing his game, it will all be worth it.

 

Sane, why? I can see that he would need time to adjust, but who would we have to start over him, if he's anything like he's cracked up to be?

What about his offensive game? I haven't heard much about it. Is it really raw? Does he have any postup moves? At his height, I feel like a hookshot would be unblockable. What about footwork?

 

relatavist- on nbadraft.net it says he is working on his hookshot which when refined will be indefensible. of course that could be said about bradley as well or anybody that tall. i wonder if offensively he is like rik smits?

 

Relativist,I have heard he can hit a jumphook with either hand,runs the floor well and can hit the three,but that he lacks low post moves,however I don't think that he is clumsy,and has good upside.The closest comparison that I have heard about him at the present is to Rik Smits who was a pretty useful player.
If we get a chance to get him I would seriously consider picking him if all the reports about him are correct.

 

UTweezer... no, not all chinese people are alike
yao ming is different from wang and mengke substantially
wang was actually an offensive player in the cba... considered to have a huge repretoire of post moves and a killer shot. his team the ba yi Rockets have beaten Yao Ming's shanghai sharks last few years... but that's mainly cause of the supporting cast.

his avg game stats are usually 20 pts, 20 boards, 5 blocks, 4 ast.
those aren't extremes or exaggerations... pretty much what he gets

Yao Ming from what i've seen shoots the three like hakeem kinda... rarely but it's ok (hakeem actually shot the three quite well). u've probably read about his overall offensive game... i think the neatest thing is he seems to be able to take more control into his hands and finish with authority unlike a lot of tall C's.

he does move well, and from what i know/seen, he's not prone to injuries... he doesn't whine about stuff and likes to go out and play hard. his parents were both tall chinese bball players and so he's not a freak ... it's in his genes to be tall and athletic. his hands are kinda small imo, but his legs and trunk seem really well fit for a 7fter (usually weight must be supported by the cross-sectional area of the leg/foot) so ilgauskas/muresan type problems won't happen?

there's one simple thing i like about Yao Ming as a draft pick compared to other guys... it's about his dedication to becoming a better bball player. he dreams/writes about plays, moves, being in the nba against the best (sometimes schooling the best) etc...
i've read stuff bout how when he's on a train ride from city to city, he just imagines a post move in his head over and over again or anticipating a block shot over and over... he's kinda got that good guy intention instead of just wanting cash/things going.

that's pretty rare nowadays with fame, drugs, women, violence etc all in sports

 

oh and as for Yao Ming being an impact player, i think he "can" immediately come in after being drafted and contribute 22-26 min a night no problem... that's up to rudy of course. i think he could definitely start over Cato as well if rudy wanted.

when i heard don nelson compare him to rik smits, that made me wonder if nelson really watched him that much. you can compare any two tall guys with ok shots together and say they're kinda similar but i think it's still way off enough not to say it.

 

As I have said before...if Ming is so good, why does China not have a greater impact at international level?

We (Australia) beat them with Ming and the other NBA Chinese players...and we aren't that good

 

It's not like it's gonna take Ming a few years to be an impact player. Hell, he will be an impact player by just standing under the basket with his 7'5" frame. That is good enough for me!