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If we are going to upgrade by adding a superstar

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by jopatmc, Aug 21, 2010.

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At which position would a superstar upgrade be most beneficial for this team?

  1. Point Guard

    24 vote(s)
    9.5%
  2. Shooting Guard

    12 vote(s)
    4.8%
  3. Small Forward

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    75.0%
  4. Center

    18 vote(s)
    7.1%
  5. Power Forward

    9 vote(s)
    3.6%
  1. jopatmc

    jopatmc Member

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    ...which position would it be most beneficial for us to add a superstar to? In other words, what position would get the biggest upgrade and help the team the most to upgrade?

    I think it is a very interesting question when you look at the roster.

    Point: Brooks
    SG: Martin
    SF: Battier or Chase
    C: Yao
    PF: Scola


    Which guys helps us the least/hurts us the most that would make the most sense to upgrade to a superstar?

    Yao? You could make a case that if he isn't healthy we would be best off to upgrade the 5. I don't see that as feasible in today's NBA.

    Scola? He's pretty good. Are you really gaining a whole lot with an upgrade at the PF? And who is available?

    Martin? He's like a top 6 SG in the whole league. Doesn't make sense to me to upgrade at his position.

    That leaves point guard and small forward

    Chase? We don't know what he is going to become. But he sure looks good right now. He's got a handle. He can shoot. He can finish. The only deficiency in his game is his D. Upgrade?????

    Brooks? Yeah I love the kid. And I love Lowry too. But Brooks IS NOT a playmaker. He IS a scorer, Calvin Murphy Part II, AI without the attitude and dope. But he's not efficient.

    My thoughts are it comes down to the 3 and 1. Don't see a superstar upgrade to Yao. Don't see a superstar upgrade to Scola. Don't see a superstar upgrade to Martin. So it's either SF or PG as far as I'm concerned.


    Oh.........and name your superstar upgrade just for kicks. And tell us what scenario is going to play out that makes him available.
     
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  2. Mr. Clutch

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    Well, before the Ariza trade I would have said PF. Scola is obviously very good, but not elite. He is not great on D and doesn't really cause matchup problems on O. That's why we went after Bosh.

    After the Ariza trade, we no longer have a logjam at the 3. In fact, all we really have there is Battier and Budinger, unless you want to put the undersized Martin and Lee in there. So a star at the 3 is arguably more needed than at the 4. Melo wold make sense.

    PG would make sense also. Chris Paul would obviously be the #1 target if available, because he's so good. But if Paul is not available, I like the mismatches Brooks creates and the combo with Lowry.

    So for me, it's the 3 and 4.
     
  3. Raven

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    It doesn't work like that, because superstars are not evenly distributed among every position. Most of them are wings, few are centers, and even fewer are point guards.

    But if we're talking hypothetical, I'd love to land a superstar center, tall, long, athletic, shot blocking, mega dunking, and healthy.

    :grin:
     
  4. jopatmc

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    That sounds like Lopez or Howard. Don't see either one of them being available for ........ oh, the next 5 years or maybe longer. And do you really believe that replacing Yao with this superstar is going to make the biggest difference in our team over adding a superstar at another position?
     
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    so you basically want Dwight Howard?
     
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    I disagree with your assessment of Scola. Imho, Scola is a top 10 PF in the league and the dropoff from Dirk/Gasol/Bosh to Scola is not as steep as Lebron/Durant/Melo to Ariza. Our weakest position has always been the 3 spot. Also, Scola's game is a great fit with Yao on the court. Add that to his professionalism and that elusive "winner" gene, and there is no doubt that he is our pf for the duration of his contract.
     
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    Superstar centers - Howard. I can't really think of anyone else who would be considered a superstar right now.

    Adding him to our team would be better than any other position. Obviously, adding a SS SF like James with a healthy Yao would be better than adding Howard, but since history repeats itself, I'd rather get a superstar center than bank on Yao's health.
     
  9. TheFreak

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    Look at the player first, not the position. Unless it's a point guard - don't ever have your 'superstar' be a point guard, unless you feel like always coming up 'short'.
     
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    A long time ago in the summer of 2005 we had Superstar 2 and a Star 5 and that could not get it done.

    So I have to say the 3. In today's nba it is the most balanced position.

    Just look at Cleveland for example. With Lebron they were a 60 win team with out him they might not even make the playoffs.

    A Superstar 3 has the size to Rebound and abuse people on the post but till has the quickness to take players of the dribble and distribute the ball to the open man.

    Magic Johnson may have been a point guard by role but if you look at his size and body type he is more of a 3 in today's NBA
     
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    Basically. The best type of superstar is the swingman who can play/guard all positions. I agree. LeBron being a good example.
     
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    Absolutely.
     
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    A healthy superstar center would make a huge difference, but currently we could use an upgrade at the 3.
     
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    Xavier Henry?
     
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    We need a Small Forward!
     
  16. Mr. Clutch

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    Each of those other guys you mentioned are "go-to guys." You can give them the ball and watch them go to work. They can draw double- teams, create mismatches, and get to the line repeatedly. They consistently put up TS% in the high 50s.

    Scola just isn't a guy like that. Sure, you can go to him AT TIMES. But he wont be the guy to carry you CONSISTENTLY. He gets to the line only 3 times per game, while the other guys get there much more often. He doesn't command double times.

    He's a heck of a player, but I would argue a tier below those guys.
     
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    It is Easily SF

    We are Two Deep everywhere else or we have a super star there
    SF is BY FaR our weakest position

    PG - Brooks/Lowry/Lee
    SG - Martin/Brooks/Jermaine/Lee
    SF - Battier/ Bud/maybe Jermaine
    PF - Scola/Miller/Patterson/Hill
    C - YAO/Miller/Hill

    Sorry but Small Forwards. . .YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINKS

    Rocket River
     
  18. DreamShakeFTW

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    Yao - Who is an upgrade? Howard maybe? Then you downgrade on offense so no point...

    Scola - Probably a Top 10-13 PF. You could possibly upgrade to a better PF, but then they will take shots/post-up opportunities away from Yao.

    Martin - He's fine at SG. The only upgrades would not be available.

    Brooks - For Chris Paul? Sure. Probably not worth it for anyone else who might be available.

    Battier/Budinger - Yes. Definitely in need of an upgrade at SF. Iggy or Wallce would be fine, but if you can get Carmelo without giving up the entire team, go for it.
     
  19. opticon

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    Do you really think Lee is to go from being a nba starter to the 4th man in a sg rotration.

    Or is that just the random order you but them in after martin.

    I do think Lee will get some burn at the point but only in emergency situations or extreme match up problems
     
  20. Rocket River

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    I think he will be probably 3rd.
    I think Brooks and Lowry will play together some
    Maybe before the Lowry and lee back court

    Rocket River
    [it was random]
     

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