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If on I-35, Make Sure You Have Your Seat Belt On

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Rocketman95, Oct 28, 2000.

  1. Rocketman95

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    ...especially through Williamson County.

    Apparantly, a 17 year-old boy, a passenger while his mother was driving, was taken to jail in Round Rock because he wasn't wearing his seatbelt and didn't have a driver's license. He had to spend the night in jail.



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  2. FrancisFan

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    I think that he was sent to jail because he didn't have a license and no seat belt was just an added bonus.

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  3. Smokey

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    Why would the boy need a drivers license if he was a passenger (not the driver) in the car? Also, isn't it the law for the driver and front passenger in a car to wear their seatbelts?



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    Sure it's the law, but would you go to jail for it?

    Our Lt. Gov can get out of a speeding ticket, but a 17 year-old boy has to spend a night in jail because he doesn't have a driver's license and wasn't wearing a seatbelt?

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  5. Major

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    you might want to check your facts... you don't need to have a driver's license to be a passenger in a car, you know. [​IMG]


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    sorry, i was actually talking to RM95 there!


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    First off, cops don't take you to jail for a seatbelt! He(they) were no doubt smarting off or acting like a jackass.

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    When I was at Baylor there was this huge story about one of the campus police giving what was called a rediculous ticket. The police officer and department got a lot of heat for it -- it even made it to the national media before the details came out.

    Turns out a group of young men (I think three freshmen) were walking around campus bothering people, and acting unruly, resulting in several complaints. (I heard that among other things, they urinated on the sidewalk, but this was never in the paper.) When one of the campus police officers caught up with them, he found out that they were drunk and belligerant. When the officer asked for ID, one especially drunk student turned around, bent over, and broke wind.

    The officer had to take action because of the complaints, but knew if he cited them for public intoxication, they could be expelled (underage, drunk, causing a disturbance on a very conservative campus). He tried to cut them a break -- he cited the one person for causing a public disturbance, noted his behavior on the ticket, and told the other two to take him home.

    When the young man went to the media to complain about this "outrageous" ticket, he made sure to highlight the part about "breaking wind." Headline -- "Student gets ticket for Farting."

    I'll bet this is a similar case -- and we don't have the whole story.

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    Right, because cops never do anything unethical, especially cops in Williamson County (of course, that may be the stuff of urban legend).

    The bond he posted stated that he was in jail for failure to wear a seatbelt, nothing more.

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    Space Ghost,

    So "smarting off" and/or "acting like a jackass" are jailable offenses? Hmmmm....

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    I think this is ridiculous. Don't cops have anything better to do?
     
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    DREAMer,

    I have gotten off on 3/4 of my pullovers for one reason: I RESPECTED them. These guys are out there protecting YOUR ass and you feel you have the right to disrespect them because YOU were doing wrong? I don't think so!
    If that was the case, then Im all for them throwing your ass in jail for the night. Teach them some respect. Cops wouldn't be assholes if everyone would treat them with respect.

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    I'm sure the guy who was shot 44 times because he was holding a candy bar was being disrespectful.

    You don't chain up a 17 year old, haul him off to jail for the night, and cite the reason as being failure to wear seatbelt if the kid was being a jackass.

    You also shouldn't throw people in jail for being jackasses, that would be mighty hypocritical of most of the cops I've come across and have been respectful to. Just wearing a badge doesn't earn my respect, it has to be mutual.

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    I've always heard that you can't tell the officer that he's an a$$hole, but you can say that you think he's an a$$hole.

    Someone mind trying that one out for me?

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    I know for a fact that someone has been arrested for referring to a cop as a dumbass.

    My father got pulled over on his way to the hospital once. He called ahead to the hospital to tell them that they needed to slow down on the surgery he was rushing to because he got pulled over. He told the nurse that he'd be there "as soon as this dumbass cop writes me a ticket". The officer arrested my father and took him to jail. (And the hospital had to scramble to find another doctor for the surgery).

    So, apparently, you can't even refer to a cop as a dumbass in his presence, even if you aren't talking to him.

    (Of course, Dad fought the charge and even sued the department. They dropped the charges against him and they settled the lawsuit for a few thousand.)

    Personally, I was amazed that the officer insisted on writing a ticket to a doctor on call who was on his way to the hospital to work an emergency surgery. I wonder if this same officer would pull over an Ambulance for speeding and running red lights.

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    That's ridiculous. A cop's ego got in the way of something much more important than speeding.

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    I'm always respectful to police officers when I get pulled over, but I always get the ticket, too. My theory is that it isn't a good idea to piss off a guy with a gun. You never know when he's going to snap.

    But even if someone is disrespectful to them, the police should take the time to respect the law. Just because someone is a jackass to them, doesn't mean that they get to decide what is or isn't against the law. And police officers don't have the right to mold the Constitution to their bidding just because someone is a jerk to them.

    Did Donato Garcia deserve to be maced and beaten because he didn't show an officer his id (Garcia was sitting in a parked car and was violating no law. The police had no legal right to even ask him to produce his id. And he was maced, beaten and arrested for not producing his id fast enough. He never did refuse to comply).

    Did Leonard Mitchell deserve to be arrested because he refused to comply with a police officer's illegal demand for id? Mitchell spent two nights in jail and the police added the charge of fleeing the scene of an arrest (an arrest for what? You can't arrest someone for failure to id. Besides, all he was was a possible witness to an accident. One officer talked to him, found out he didn't see anything, so he left. A different officer chased him down, illegally demanded to see his id and then arrested him when Mitchell refused to comply with the illegal order).

    Yes, we should all be respectful of police officers. They have a hard and dangerous job. But we shouldn't just roll over and accept it when the police break the law or violate the Constitution or add throwdown charges simply because they don't like you.

    Some officers don't like to follow the law, we shouldn't have to put up with that. I, for one, am not going to be a person who blindly goes along with being respectful when an officer is violating my civil rights. (That's not to say that's what happened in the case. I'm talking more broadly about respect for police officers in general.)

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