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Ideal scenario for this summer

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by tycoonchip, Apr 8, 2002.

  1. tycoonchip

    tycoonchip Member

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    Well I've been seeing alot of one threads with ideas and then a boat load of reply bashes that could tear a man's ego apart. So I'm asking people what would their ideal scenario be. I'm not asking anyone to bash or comment on anyone's idea's. I'm just asking on what each individual's ideal scenario would be.
     
  2. LA's #1 Rocket Fan

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    My ideal plan would be to trade K. Thomas, our 5th or 6th pick and toronto's 14th pick to the LAC for L. Odom and their 8th pick (to LAC from Atl). Than use that pick for Butler. That would give us:

    C - Cato / Collier
    PF - Taylor / Griffin
    SF - Odom / Rice
    SG - Mobley / Butler
    PG - Francis / Norris

    IR - Willis / Morris / Brown

    I honestly think Odom can be moved this summer for the right price. If not than I'd try our 5th or 6th pick and Toronto's 14th to the Wizards for K. Brown Giving us:

    C - Cato / Griffin
    PF - Taylor / K. Brown
    SF - Rice / Thomas
    SG - Mobley / Torres
    PG - Francis / Norris

    IR - Collier / Morris / T. Brown

    K. Brown could be a star in a 2-3 years. Though he could also be a bust but I'd take that risk. Right now he just seems a little too excited and a little lost being a rookie. But I do see the skills that made him #1 last year. Kobe was like this also, Brown just needs some playing time. I see him as a rare player that has the skills to play all the frontcourt positions like RW and a little like KG. To sum it up I think he is better than drafting Gooden or Wilcox though he might not pay off as quickly even in the next two to three years.

    Just my opinion.
     
  3. Two Sandwiches

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    I like the Clippers deal, and i think they would be willing to part with one of their lottery picks, but I think we should pick up a Drew Gooden or a Chris Marcus. Marcus can't be any slower than the then 39 year old Olajuwan last year. Marcus is a very good center that can help our team. I see Gooden as a Danny Fortson that ca score. He would also contribute to our team. I think w could include Walt,who would give them some leadership, for a backup sg.


    C - Marcus or Gooden/Cato / Collier
    PF - Taylor / Griffin
    SF - Odom / Rice
    SG - Mobley / backup fro Clipps
    PG - Francis / Norris

    IR - Willis / Morris / Brown
     
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    I forgot to mention Borchardt, I think he would be GREAT with this team.
     
  5. Dallas Rocket

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    An ideal summer?

    Find to voodoo injury doll, take all the pins out, and bury him somewhere near Al Capone :D ;)

    Removing that curse would be a great start.

    D R
     
  6. german rocketfan

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    DRAFT:
    #6 C.Wilcox
    #14 V.Yarbrough

    OUR FREE AGENTS:
    Let W.Williams walk
    Let D.Langhi walk
    Let K.Willis walk
    Resign O.Torres
    Resign T.Brown

    TRADES:
    Sent K.Thomas and J.Collier to LAC for
    L.Odom

    ROSTER FOR 02-03:
    C-Wilcox,Cato
    F-Taylor,Griffin
    F-Odom,Rice,Yarbrough
    G-Mobley,Torres
    G-Francis,Norris,Brown

    On IR:T.Morris

    Perfect Offseason Scenario!!!My opinion
     
  7. DCkid

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    All I can say is if Wilcox enters the draft, I feel sorry for the team that drafts Gooden or Jefferies over him.
     
  8. leebigez

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    I like dealing for Lamar with the high lotto pick and Thomas and use the Toronto pick on maybe Marcus. I don't know if they would do it, but with that high pick and Thomas, we probably could get Tim Thomas from milw. If given the chance to start, the 25yr old Thomas could be a real good player. I still like Lamar more though.
     
  9. NJRocket

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    Agreed...i hope he stays at md though
     
  10. leebigez

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    Other than being a great athelete, I don't see the big deal with Wilcox.
     
  11. DCkid

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    You know what, I hadn't even thought about Tim Thomas. He'd be an incredible pickup!!! I just think trading our high pick and Kenny might be way too much for either Odom or Tim Thomas. Hell, Kenny produced more this seaosn than either of those two players. I think a straight up trade without the draft pick would be more fair. But if we somehow got into the top 3, we definitely would get more in return than just Tim Thomas or Odom.
     
  12. DCkid

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    Tell that to those lottery picks Jefferies, Gooden, and Dunleavy. He outplayed all three of them this season. If those guys are lottery picks, then how can Wilcox not be?
     
  13. NJRocket

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    He didnt outplay them...he DOMINATED them...especially Gooden and Dunleavy
     
  14. leebigez

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    He played good defense, but offensively he didn't do much of anything. Do you remeber the little guard that put the clamps on Jordan in his last game in college? I didn't think so, but the guy didn't even get drafted. Wilcox played a good defensive game, but his offense isn't even avg. I'm not saying he couldn't improve that, but why would you want another 4 man?

    The thing about KT is that he's probably a career bench guy. I'm not saying that its anything wrong with that or he didn't have a good yr, but I put him in the Malik Rose category. He plays hard, rebounds well, but as a full time starter on a good team I doubt it. Basing the trade value on Thomas compared to Tim Thomas or Odom is really not fair game. Gm's will always look at the "potential" they're giving up as opposed to production. Look at Odoms career so far including his poor yr this yr and compare it to KT. At the 3 spot, Odom even rebounds better than KT. I don't even know if that high pick and Kt will be enough to get Odom.
     
  15. DCkid

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    Ben Wallace has less of an offensive game than Wilcox, but I'd love to have him on my team. One thing I've noticed is that offenisve skills in college don't translate very well to the NBA, but athletic ability does. And I agree with you that Wilcox does not have great offensive basketball skills, but he runs the court so well he gets alot of easy dunks. Plus, all you would have to do is throw it up near the basket and Wilcox will go up and get it. He finds ways to score. And it should be noted that in addition to playing good defense on those three guys, he also outscored them. He led all scorers with 23 points against Duke and scored 18 against Kansas.

    I'm not expecting Wilcox to be a superstar offensive player, I'm expecting him to be an extremely solid role player, which is something the Rockets have not had in a long time.
     
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    This is just my opinion, but it seems the Rocks are gearing towards a win now scenario for next year. Unless we get lucky by getting a top 2 or 3 pick, I'd like to do all we can to get some veterans in here.

    top 3 pick - draft Ming if possible

    If we get 5 pick or higher and get Toronto's 14 pick - trade them for some veteran leadership.

    I would not mind young veterans like Marion, Mike Miller, Olowokandi, or even Odom. I would love if we could get a McDyess. I think about how things might have been if we could have gotten Cliff Robinson from Phoenix instead of Rice.

    Unless we can get Ming, I do not see how the draft will help us in the immediate future.

    Dream scenario

    We get the 1 pick, get Ming, we get Toronto's 14 pick which we can trade along with a player or three.

    Kenny , #14, Mooch, a future pick, and Cato for Mcdyess and Tim Hardaway.

    C - Ming, Griffin, Collier, Willis
    PF- McDyess, Taylor, Griffin
    SF - Rice, Griffin, Morris
    SG - Mobley, Torres, Francis
    PG - Francis, Hardaway, Brown

    I think Tim Hardaway can be a major asset even if he is on the injured list (for obvious reasons).


    :D
     
  17. TheFreak

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    Trade Collier for Duncan. Ideal scenario.
     
  18. B-ball freak

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    That joke never gets old :rolleyes:
     
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    Draft Caron Butler and Marcus.
     
  20. leebigez

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    You don't use a potential #5 or 6 pick on role players. Now if we were drafting late in the first or early second i say yes to a role player, but anything in the top 10 is suppose to be impact players, game changers, cornerstones, not role players. A role player in the top 10 is called a bust.
     

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