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I will boycott anything that pig Michael Moore does

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Free Agent, Mar 24, 2003.

  1. Free Agent

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    Anyone see his acceptance speech tonight at the Oscars? God I wish he would have lost so we wouldn't have been put through that. Here's a story about it:

    Michael Moore's acceptance speech, however, earned applause from some -- but hoots of derision from others.

    Accompanied by his fellow documentary nominees, Moore, who won best documentary for "Bowling for Columbine," wasted no time in lighting into President Bush, the 2000 election and the war in Iraq.

    "I've invited my fellow documentary nominees on stage with us here in solidarity with me," he said, "because we like non-fiction and we live in fictitious times. ... We have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons. We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush, shame on you."

    Moore expanded on his comments with the press backstage.

    "I'm an American," he said. "You don't leave your citizenship behind when you enter the doors of the Kodak Theatre." He added that expressing opinions is "what I do. I do that in my filmmaking."

    Asked what he thought of the catcalls, he said, "Don't report that there was a split decision in the hall because five

    loud people booed."
     
  2. gr8-1

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    Moore needs to get a hearing aid. And the fact that he tried to downplay the boos (and the number of the people who booed) shows what kind of insecure person he is. Most malcontents would say "I don't give a crap if my opinion is in the minority." His statement was more of a "Not that many people disagree with me." How insecure.
     
  3. RocksMillenium

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    Who does this guy think he is? I don't have a problem with people and their opinion, but there are guys like him and some celebrities who think just because they're celebrities they're god's gift and what they say goes. I'm glad that guy got jeered the way he did. It just seemed to me that a lot of celebrities used this as a chance to get some face time and say "look I have a personality, here's what I have to say about politics".
     
  4. R0ckets03

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    Not to change the subject from Moore (who was about as classless and unpatriotic as they come), but the acceptance speech from Adrien Brody was absolutely heart warming. The part where he told the producers to "Stop it now", referring to the exit music was pretty damn funny. I'm going to have to watch the Pianist just because of his speech.
     
  5. ZRB

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    Good for Michael. I wish more Americans were like him.
     
  6. Mr. Mooch

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    I met him when he came to Rice a few years back. He seemed like a decent guy, and funny.

    But he's completely turned himself into a wrong spiraling direction.
    He feels he has to stand up for them anti-war idiots WHO STILL PROTEST AS IF THEY THINK THE WAR WILL CEASE BECAUSE OF THEIR ACTIONS.

    Well, Michael, you're not doing much. Maybe you will soon realize that this country that you berate gave you the opportunity to make such a pathetic movie.

    Why don't you go live in North Korea. I don't think you'll make it very far.

    This guy's views are so flawed. He's just a little a-hole going around thinking he's some kind of god influencing others. That's when he's not at Krispy Kreme overbinging on his 5th round of doughnut holes.

    Go do something useful with your gross income from "Columbine". Get a life, don't ruin yourself anymore. YOu aren't getting anywhere. You are not trying to solve the problem, you ARE the problem.
     
  7. Oski2005

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    I thought Michael screwed up, he's not very eloquent. Adrian Brody's speech was great.

    Speaking of documentaries, they played one here for the Tx film festival called Unprecedented: The 2000 Presidential Election. Too bad we can't talk about stuff like that anymore, interesting stuff. I recommend people watch it if they want to see how things happened behind the scenes and up close.
     
  8. Oski2005

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    Man, you guys probably disliked him before this. Anyways, he didn't act like God while talking to Moses (Heston).
     
  9. mrpaige

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    I liked Brody's speech, as well. It seemed very heartfelt.

    I was expected Michael Moore to be the one who said something. It's just his style. It's just what you get with him. I thought Steve Martin's joke afterward was pretty funny, too.

    Considering that the only thing of Moore's I've seen is Canadian Bacon, and I watched that on HBO one afternoon, I don't think he'll miss my business if I were so inclined to quit watching (though since I never really started watching, I'm not sure I could really quit even if I wanted to).
     
  10. Jeff

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    What frustrates me so much about this is how incredibly disrespectful his comment are to everyone. His comments hurt his cause by making him look stupid. They show callousness for those whose loved one's are in harm's way, not to mention the very people who are in harm's way. They demonstrate that he is more interested in grandstanding than in being gracious.

    He is being paid and awarded for doing the work he loves most. That is a rare and precious gift and, in many instances through film, he has used that gift to make his mark and do good things.

    But, to use an award for your artistic achievement as a way to further your political ideology is is a selfish choice at a time when grace was the wiser option.

    I thought a much more moving a respectful speech came from the best actor winner for the Pianist. He spoke about how horrible war can be and how we should all wish for peace to come as quickly as possible for everyone and he wished the best for his friend in Kuwait. THAT is respectful of both your position as a celebrity and those who are there to see and hear your words.

    I have avoided participation in threads about the war and have even done my best to avoid reading about it or watching coverage because it makes me tremendously sad when I do. I try to be respectful of everyone's opinion whether or not I agree. What is so disappointing about Moore's comments is how selfish and petty he sounded in a moment where he could have been magnanomous and an example of how to behave under those circumstances. What a shame.
     
  11. Grizzled

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    True.
     
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    I don' t think the people that are protesting the war are naive enough to believe that the war will stop b/c of the protests. Just like you have a strong belief for the wrong, he has a strong belief against it. Only time will tell if the war was justified.
     
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    *a strong belief for the war

    I did not mean to type "strong belief for the wrong" This was a typo!! Just a typo!!

    Man, of all things to mistype... oops!
     
  14. Timing

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    Yeah, he wasn't very eloquent but he's just an extreme left wing complement to the extreme right wing. The extreme right wing portion of the spectrum will get their say on their own shows tomorrow but of course Moore will be the only one who shouldn't be using his status to promote his views. :)


    Brody was very genuine.
     
  15. MadMonk

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    We are STILL free to express our opinions. This is the US 2003 - NOT Nazi Germany 1938. You are free to boycott Moore's movies but don't fall for the GOP line that to oppose the official "Party Line" is to hate America. It is precisely the deep love that many people have for America that compells them to speak out on a very questionable path of action to war (Yes, Saddam should be taken out but waiting until April to get UN approval would have given us legitimacy and moral leverage) and the tremendous damage that the present administration has done to the reputation and good will that America has carefully built up for the last century. To stifle dissent because it would hurt the troops is disingenuous. One can support the troops without having to profess support for the government and its policies. After all, this is precisely what the Republicans did when they tried to impeach Clinton for fibbing about a BJ while our troops were in Bosnia.
     
  16. mrpaige

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    Wow. You know that Russia, China, Germany and France were going to cave in April?
     
  17. outlaw

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    Come on guys. Was this really a surprise?
    I guess if you didn't really know who he was it might be but I thought this was perfectly in character for MM and I would have been disappointed if he hadn't spoken his mind regardless of what he said.
     
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    Did anyone mention that everyone at the Oscars had signed a waiver saying they wouldn't mention the war during the ceremony?

    I'm thinking that was the reason for the booing.

    And I'm led even more so to think that because people cheered when he mentioned the election, and the illegitmacy of the president.

    No one booed (except for one person, who was booing quite loudly, perhaps Kelsey Grammar) until the war talk started. I'm guessing that rubbed a few people the wrong way, since mostly everyone was looking forward to an evening away from the terrible thoughts of the war.


    Either way, you can't say Mr. Moore leaves this with egg on his face. He's just recieved more publicity (and as they said in Chicago, no publicity is bad publicity) than he could have ever dreamed of. And at the end of the day, he's still got the #1 non-fiction book of 2002 and the most successful (both financially and critically) documentary of all time under his belt. Not bad I'd say.
     
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    It was his opinions and style in using those opinions that got him to that podium.

    Frankly, I'd be more ashamed of him if he didn't say anything.
     
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    I shudder to think what our world would be like if everyone had the "oh well, not like anything I could do would ever make a difference" mentality.
     

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