I think we have waited enough, what is up with Griffin?

Well, he is only twenty. However, I did expect much more out of him this season. He really doesn't seem to be much better than last year. Even with his youth, it kind of makes me wonder if the Lewis for Griffin sign-and-trade deal was actually a reality.

 

Well, it seems like Eddie might be in Rudy's doghouse. Usually Rudy doesn't break from his rotation, but he only played Griffin 9 minutes last night and benched his ass the entire second half! Hopefully Griffin gets the message.

 

Its true, players like Eddie could gain a lot of maturation by staying in college..The NBA has been picking players on potential for some time now
4 year seniors who can make a quicker transition to the pros are almost ignored now, team play is no longer held at a premium. Individual talent and potential are foremost.
Eddie G has both....

 

I'm not ready to give up on Griffin yet, actually I doubt anybody is, but I really do hope he starts doing much better. So far he's only doing marginally better than he did last season, and we all know he has more potential than that. Wonder how he does in practices.

 

Here's how I see it:

As a rook, Griffin learned every thing he would've learned in 4 years of college.

Now, he's a rookie. So this is kinda like his first season. he's not far behind ANY of the high school players, and is actually a spark for us right now with his shotblocking.

Obviously, his game requires a little more pure strength. Once he gets that, the game will come to him more easily. Dont' worry, Ming/Griffin is our starting frontcourt next year, and it will be one of the best ones. Especially if he puts on muscle in the offseason at his current rate (8lbs/season). Assuming he puts on 2 during the season, then 8 in the offseason, he'll be 10lbs stronger, which will make such a HUGE difference in his game. He'll be able to post up most PF's, and he won't get pushed around on D< while being able to body up. His Jumper will improve too with increased strength.

He's a rookie this season, that's how you should look at it.

 

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Regardless of all that, he should be doing better. So far, he's only looked good against the Sonics, who don't really have a PF. He's regressed a tiny bit, that's for sure.

Like I said in another thread, consistent playing time will most probably improve this.

The solution being, trade KT.

 

EddieG is pretty much guaranteed his 28 plus minutes a game average....The question is which minutes..Against teams that zone,hes a zone breaker at the 4 with his outside shooting. But against man-toman hes shown no inside game to date. His shooting average is still lower than his 3pt average.
KT on the other hand is the opposite, he gives man to man defenses fits.
Rudy does a good job of playing the best possible match-ups, as Eddies inside game improves, he will move aside both KT and MoT.
But, a power forward who shoots below 40% around the basket, can be a liability.

 

Griffin is a future SUPERSTAR. There is little he can't do on a basketball court. Geez, the guy is only 20- give him a break.

Francis, Yao, and Griffin are the Rocket's future.

 

What exactly do you guys expect of all these players. I swear some of you want all of them to be 20pt 10 reb 10 assist guys. There are only so many points, assists, and rebounds to go around. Elton Brand was abusing EG's defense out there and he was also having a bad shooting night. In other words, EG was basically a 6'10" Moochie Norris. He needed to be pulled.

Also, the fact that Eddie was a highly-ranked high school player has nothing to do with anything. Several high-ranked high school players never amount to much.

EG may need to bulk up a bit more to bang with the big boys... ie, the Elton Brand's of the world.

 

griffin needs to fake a shot and take it to the HOLE,. i have watched him play 8 times., and all i seen him do is shoot or passs. cant he fake a shhot and dribble to get a layup, or dribble then pass out

 

EG just needs to relax and let the game come to him. He needs to be more consistant with his shot and be more physical on defense. All of that will come in time.


There is nothing wrong with EG that time cannot erase.

 

What is wrong with Eddie is he is not a Power Forward right now, in ability or mentality. He looks like a player who is playing out of position. That could change, but right now, Rudy appears to be trying to develop him into something he isn't yet, and maybe doesn't want to be.

Some players just don't like getting hit in the low posts.

 

EG is a hard worker and never complains.

So what if Elton Brand was abusing him. Elton Brand is probably their best player. We should have had help down low,

My only complaint with Griffin is his shooting - it's horrible.

If it's not a 3 pointer, he cant make it.

He must make the open 10-15 jumpshot.

 

Let's get real for a minute. His overall shooting % has been sub par since coming into the league--37%. This is the big problem with him. If he could up his % to 43%+, he would be much more dominant.

He also needs to work on touch. He gets so many open shots from 6-10 feet and misses them regularly. His 3pt % started hot, but now is slipping. His overall is higher than his career average, but still sub par.

Three things need to happen for him to become a star:

1. Develop a better inside presence..whether a jump hook or the post or both...

2. Pick shots better

3. Work with shooting coach to develop touch, selection and form.


These things have not happened or happened enough as indicated so far by his averages. He still looks awkward in his release and his touch is not there.

This 20 year old excuse it getting old. Look at Rashard in his second year. Maturity will improve his selections, but touch and overall shooting ability is not there and he needs to work more to get it there....

 

People all you gotta do is give EG some time. I don't think he's playing that bad this year. When the rotation plays itself out and KT is traded, he will get more minutes and get more comfortable.

He's gonna be a star by the end of his contract. It's only been 11 games.

 

You know, Eddie actually had better stats than Dirk Nowitzki his first year. This year Eddie has better stats than Dirk's second year in everything but his FG %. An argument could be made that Dirk was able to improve his FG % his second year because he recieved 35 minutes a game. Eddie has averaged about 28 minutes. Perhaps with more minutes Eddie will gain confidence and Rudy can run some of the offense through him. I think he will eventually come around as he gains more size over the years. Gaining weight really helped Dirk improve his game.

 

some players just take longer to develop....it took peja 2 years. darius miles still isnt dominating. and right now eddie's strong points are not his offense. give the kid a chance. plus we don't really need him putting up big minutes right now...give him time to bulk up and work on his midrange game and he will be a nice player for us in a year.

 

I think its good that EG is developing a little slow cuz it gives the Rockets a chance to look at Mo Taylor and see if he will be a contributor on this team or not and if they need to see if they need trade him or what cuz you can't have all these power forwards. EG is not gonna be a star player anytime soon and he may not ever be one,EG is to slow with his side to side movements and really doesn't have much of an inside game yet.
I dunno if he gains weight he still may be slow on his feet and will be out hustled by faster,stronger power forwards.