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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by el_locoteee, Jan 16, 2008.

  1. el_locoteee

    el_locoteee Member

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    I know this lost hurt because we just stop playing in the 4th like we already won.
    But looking around the NBA lately is like we are not the only one. Detroit loosing to Knicks badly, Celtics loosing to Charlotte and Wiz. Phx losing to the Clippers, Denver to Charlotte and Atlanta in a Back to Back. Dallas to Sacramento etc. And any of these team have one of their superstar missing any of this games.

    Lets Just hope T-Mac get back and help us Start a new winning streak maybe the next 5 games and will be right back. The west is close and every night any can beat any team, more so this season.

    Lets be happy for what we found in T-Mac absent.

    Scola is a big part of the Offense.
    Brooks is a as solid backup PG as any on the NBA.
    Rafer is doing well.
    Head as long he is not passing or tryng to make plays is good enough.
    Bonzi before the injure to the shoulder was balling.

    The offense finally is moving the ball. We have a bench, we are running more. we found a rotation.

    Now add T-Mac to the mix and Wow. now we got size back to the backcourt, we add another a great playmaker and most important a finisher in the 4th quarter.

    With T-Mac into the starting lineup look at our Bench, Scola, Bonzi, Brooks, Head, Laundry. is a hell of a bench.

    Houston will be elite before the All start I don't care about our the record.

    Just take out for 3 week, Nash from Phx, CP3 from NO, Dirk from Dallas, Roy from Portland, Steve Jackson from GS, Melo from Denver, etc. They will be lucky to play .500 ball.

    Maybe was a bless for T-Mac to be out and Houston to give other specially the rookies a chance to play, now we know what we have and that is talent. like any other Rockets in the past. We finally learn to win without T-MAC what it means that will be better now when T-Mac play again.

    Go Rox win 8 out the next 10 you can do it.
     
  2. northeastfan

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    The only problem is those other teams can afford to lose a bunch of games and still make the playoffs. We simply can't afford losses like the one against the 76ers last night nor the one to the Hornets.
     
  3. durvasa

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    When you're already straddling just above the .500 mark, you can't afford to lose these kind of games at home.

    These guys are flushing their season down the toilet. Right now, Golden State is in 8th place and they're on a 48 win pace. For us just to hit 48 wins, we need to go 28-15 the rest of the way.
     
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    Yeah, there is a difference between the aberration of the Pistons scoring 65 at MSG and the Rocks consistent ineptitude.

    we had this game in the palm of our hands and we literally threw it away.

    looking forward to see where management goes from here.
     
  5. MeatAndPotatoes

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    uh, i think the rockets are capable of finishing the season 3 wins for every loss which would prolly put them up there in the 6th spot.

    tracy is pretty much back now and the team is showing great potential. we all know that houston was expected to do much better and be one of the elite teams in the whole league. nothing has really changed. players hit a big slump in the coarse of learning a new system... unexpected injuries kept our star player out.... other than that we're still seeing tons of potential. unlike all these other top teams like dallas, phoenix, whatever, we are going to get ALOT better. I expect us to have the best after all-star break record in the league.

    houston has the most talent. sucks that james and francis fell apart, but atleast we have a genuine coach who is fixing everything that jeff van gundy lacks. i think we saw for the last time tonight, when our team forces the ball to a star player. we will look for our stars in clutch time, but i think we're done trying to cram it down their throats and avoid giving them any support.

    Adelman is definitely an experimental coach, but i think even he has had enough of the BS and will start enforcing things. Before the season, he said around the allstar break the team should look more settled into the system. sometimes it's a painful process having to experiment with a team so much, but we're nearing the end of the experimental process and nearing the final product of the whole new team.
     
  6. el_locoteee

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    Now they stop playing Eastern conference team they going to start playing each other more and more.

    and 28-15 is not hard with T-Mac in the Line UP.

    We have the easier schedule and we going to have T-Mac back.

    and 45 to 46 win will be enough to get a playoff spot in the west.
    Is almost impossible to got 8 teams wining 48+ in the same division. Now the toying with the Eastern Conference but once the star facing each other we going to see more and more teams just fighting to stay above .500

    I know we loss to a team we should have beat but if we beat SA next game them we can steal the game back. And alleluia Seattle is back to back, with a easy, easy February. We will be 7 or 6 by start of March.
     
  7. northeastfan

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    Don't get too happy about playing Seattle. We were probably happy about playing the 76ers too.
     
  8. el_locoteee

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    Hey! You are here, I miss you in the 5 games winning streak.
     
  9. northeastfan

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    I was here! You probably didn't recognize me because I had POSITIVE posts!
     
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    ...with tracy? we would have beat the sixers by 20 easily. they would never have gotten all that momentum in the 4th to hit all those shots and play that defense with an attitude. Head would not have been in the game to choke it away.

    i'm pretty glad this game happened though. i think it really shows adelman things about his players which he might not have known and he can work on.

    last season we were what 4 losses for every win without tmac? this year we're like .700 without him? can't wait to have him back.
     
  11. northeastfan

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    Tracy played in the Miami, Kings, part of 76ers, Toronto and Memphis games. He is a streaky player. Sometimes he wins games for us (Utah early in the season); other times he simply shoots us out of games when he shoots around 30% because he takes *so* many shots (many of the bad shots).
     
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    ya, edit: when i said the game shows adelman some things about his players, i'm talking about how they play whenever they try to make Yao dominate the end of a game. they did not 'adapt' to the defense like he probably thought they would. adelman's offense is all about taking advantages of the defense, plain and simple. even if luther did get yao the ball by miracle, and yao made an amazing fade away shot over the 3 defenders on him, adelman still would have been happier with a simple cut to the basket and an easy layup.

    there's no reason to force a situation in adelman's offense. i think adelman wanted yao to touch the ball in every possession at the end of the game because his fg% and passing abilities, but he didn't want the team to force it whenever the opponent had him covered and was expecting every move. there where back to back to back to back times that the entire defense was all on one side of the court between the ball handler and Yao. I'm sure Adelman got a kick out of that.
     
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    That was a different Houston team. With Mike James in the Rotation, Steve playing, NO AB, Scola only playing 8 min and getting in Foul trouble. Houston never running and playing JVG offense. etc.
     
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    If Morey doesn't make a move now he's not making one until the Rockets are mathematically out of the playoffs.

    These are desperate times. It's either shake it up or sit it out.
     
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    dude, no.

    first, tracy was hurt for all those games you mentioned and was prolly, 50%?

    secondly, don't even think the way the team has been playing has any reflection of how they played earlier in the season. tmac took a bunch of tough shots cause everyone else on the team was pretty much choking (see tonight's game), and he's had a ****ed up knee since early november. tracy can easily keep us in the game even when our players are all playing terrible (see 07 playoffs). if our team continues to play half as good as they have been since he's been out, we will win 3 games for every loss the rest of the season, easily.
     
  16. el_locoteee

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    Thats call get what the defense give you. Adelman System depends in players reading defense and taking advantage of it. Head is not ready yet. That why RA have gone to AB, Rafer lately better decision makers. But with Miller and Green i the backcourt, AB had some defense problem, but this will not happen with a 6-8 T-Mac playing at the end.
     
  17. northeastfan

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    I hope you're right, but I simply don't see us going 75% for the rest of the season. 60% ... maybe ... no way are we going 75% though; we're simply too flawed.
     
  18. northeastfan

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    Yes, usually Battier guards the 2 if he is a scorer and TMac guards the 3. We have a lot of trouble with teams if both the 2 and the 3 are athletic (GSW) in which case TMac's softness on defense can't easily be masked.
     
  19. el_locoteee

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    GS is a different story is about the fronting of Yao what give Houston problem, Last game Baron have a horrible night and Steve Jackson was could until the end when he got hot thanks to a lot of T.O. and bad plays that gave the Warriors confidence. And players leaving wide open 3 point shooters special Bonzi at the end of the game.
     
  20. superx

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    Such bad game make me feel sick!

    Our situation is different from other teams you referd to(much worse),so we are the only team who lost the game that they can't afford to lose it.
     

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