I think this would be a great trade for both Toronto and Rox

sound ok, although if toronto did that they would have almost traded their whole team in a week, can't see it happening.

 

Cat, Rose, and Carter on the same team? 3 of the same type of player and they all need their shots.

 

Actually, you know who would make a pretty good PF compliment to Yao, not perfect, but good, is the guy the Raps just got. He's sort of a blend of Cato and Taylor. I don't know whoat we'd give for him, but Cato would work pretty good in Toronto, who simply needs muscle ( Bosh is becoming their offensive force inside), and could use Mobes as the perfect 6th man. I'm not sure about starting him at pg, but maybe if we switch Williams for Marshall....I'll have to check if it works...

 

agree, donyell marshall is a tough guy but can also score. kind of a thug though... at least when he was with Utah. or maybe he just looks like a thug?

 

you just have him confused with ludacris.

jim jackson used to be a thug in dallas... right? people can change. marshall would be a good fit.

 

2 starters for 3 backups makes no sense. I don't think we need any more Small Forwards either, but we certainliy need another PF and a PG, if Francis moved to SG.

What about Cato/Moochie for Williams/Marshall/Baxter ... that works in terms of salaries, although it would have to happen in the next 24 hours.

They get the starting center they want and a backup PG.

Toronto would have:

Cato/Bateer
Bosh/Moiso/Bradley
Curry/Murry/Jeffries
Carter/Peterson
Rose/Norris/Palacio/Brunson

We'd get to experiment with moving Francis to SG, improve our depth at SG and PF, but lose depth at center:

Ming/Ameechi
Taylor/Marshall/Baxter
JJ/Griffin/Boki
Francis/Mobely/Pike
Williams/Wilks

Both teams would be better. Williams isn't the greatest PG in the world, but we'd get a chance to see how Francis would do at the 2.

 

1 more vote for Donyell Marshall. At small forward, not pf.

Yeah sure, trade Cat and Cato. Big deal. Bye. They don't fit with Yao, anyway. I guess you're not going to get much more than Alvin Williams and Donyell Marshall from those two. They suck. Here's to better things with them gone.

 

How about this trade:

Cuttino Mobley
Kelvin Cato

For

Jaamal Tinsley
Scott Pollard
Al Harrington

It works salary wise too.

 

Sorry to disappoint you, but there are a lot more teams in the league interested in Alvin Williams' service than there are teams interested in Cuttino Mobley and Kelvin Cato's services. I would definitely do this trade if it was ever offered to us.

 

How about we trade Steve Francis for Cuttino Mobley?

 

cool, we have another insider in our midst.

As for the deal, meh. Takes our position of weakness and makes it weaker w/o recieving anything other than roleplaying wingmen, which we have well covered already.

 

No way, Cuttino is younger, healthier and cheaper. Last summer I thought this might be a good idea (Cat-AW as principals), not anymore. Now I think we are better off keeping Cat at the 2 guard get getting major talent in return for SF. Now something like Bosh and AW (+filler) for SF (if we can use our exception to get around BYC)--that would be much more interesting--we would fortify two spots at once. Toronto with Francis, Carter & Rose would be deadly every couple of nights--they would just have no frontline and play zero defense so they would lose more than than win, though they would be fun to watch.

 

There is also a rumor hanging around Toronto about trading VC for Steve Nash and Shawn Bradley

 

not going to happen, why would they trade their best distributor of the rock and their tallest man for another offensive option. The team is already overloaded with shooters.

 

You know what, I expected homerism from all fans, but some times I think certain Rockets fans are a couple of fuses short of a fully functioning head. The question is why would the Raptors do this trade.

On defence, Alvin Williams is superior to Cat Mobley, far superior actually. That difference certainly isn't made up by Cato's defence, who's atrocious at man to man D actually.

On offence, we give up some fire power in Cat but then gives the Raptors huge offensive problems. Cat would instantly take the rhythm out of any offence with his ISO plays and Cato can't hit a 5 footer if his life depended on it. The more disturbing trend, he not only thinks he can shoot now but also blow dunks. On the other hand, granted he's in a slump right now, we all saw what Alvin Williams can do when given the minutes. Throw in MoPete, who's a younger and less talented Cat, yet one who knows:

1. Not to take too many bad shots
2. How to run a fastbreak
3. Knows his role
3. Last but not least, scores more than Cato

I know the EC desperately needs big men, but if this guy shoots 5.9 PPG on 34% shooting, while getting paid like a star and traded for Alvin Williams (who at least can semi justify his contract), his name better be Ben Wallace. Simply put, Kelvin Cato just ain't cuttin' it. In fact, Toronto just trade one of their fan favs (JYD) who averages BETTER number than Cato, got a smaller contract, actually defends well and plays like it's his last game, just to get rid of a bad contract, what makes you think they'd take one back?

For the Rockets, you start a backcourt of Pike, JJ and Steve, then slide Steve to the 2 and have Williams off the bench. Voila, PG prob solved, not to mention Moochie never need to see PT again.

Bottomline, Jerry West himself can't get this trade done, not against Glen Grunwald.

 

Forgot to mention, Toronto's D is actually decent, what they have prob is offence. With this trade they'd be no better at offence while actually got worse on D. Cat would be coming off the bench after Jalen Rose.

 

Really?

If I remember correctly, the raptors/bulls trade almost didn't go through because Toronto wanted to include AW as part of the deal. Chicago simply didn't want to take on his bumed knees and his contract. Alvin Williams has not been healthy for the last couple of years. Given his age, he may never be a starting caliber player again in this league.

 

I like that too. But if we're gonna trade Steve, I was thinking somewhere along the lines of Steve + TE for VC and 2nd rounder. VC can dish and can dominate, which means if we're gonna go without a PG we might as well go with somebody who can pass the ball. I think I proposed this in another thread.

 

This team doesn't need any more young players. Cat is the perfect example of how a young dumb and what's worse, not smartening up player can do to a team. The only thing that makes him stand out from the other average 2guards in this league is his contract.