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I think the Rockets are being insincere about McGrady

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Mathloom, Nov 20, 2009.

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  1. Mathloom

    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I think they've held him out this long to make sure they get the insurance money. More details on the insurance have really clarified things.

    If he misses 41 consecutive games (Minny game was the 42nd) then they get to save 80% of his salary for each game he misses.

    Furthermore, it sheds some light on the McGrady-Morey disagreement re is Mcgrady practicing fully or not. If the insurance company determines that the Rockets have intentionally held out McGrady from games in order to receive benefits, it may void the contract.

    Reason being:

    - before 41 games are missed, all missed games are 80% covered as long as they are consecutive.
    - After the 41st game, they dont have to be consecutive. Every missed game is 80% covered.

    This is exactly why Morey had to make it appear that McGrady's knee is problematic. Whereas, T-Mac wants to play and feels he can play and is frustrated that the insurance cover is in the way.

    Furthermore, Morey is a smart man. A business man. This is why he has given all staff the same briefing: McGrady is still not ready, Nov. 23 will decide whether he is and specifically not to comment on anything McGrady says.

    This is why you have other parts of the organization in sync with Morey. It is also why McGrady got frustrated - no one was acknowledging his readiness, and he started to feel ignored. So he blew up and went to coach Adelman who has said he needs a health Mac this season but has since been very cold on the topic.

    Additionally, McGrady by wearing a uniform is sending a message out to everyone (fans, public, insurance) that he's ready to play but is being held out. He tried to screw the insurance contract. Now Morey is frustrated and had to reassure everyone that McGrady is NOT ready and not make any comments which can be held against him by the insurance guys. The Nov 23 MRI is just a formality - Morey needs it to show that he was not cheating the system. I don't think he ever commented on the MRI done in training camp which allegedly showed no problems.

    All in all, I would do the same thing Morey did. He is running a business and McGrady's inconsistent past meant that his risk factor is very high therefore Morey had to mitigate that risk for the organization. The worst that can happen is that McGrady misses a few more games and gets anxious to play. But Morey should have factored in that the anxiousness could cause an implosion. It's still positive though because I'm happy to know that we are covered financially for Mac's inconsistency. It's a tough market and we need to make sure the franchise is financially stable (Mac is biggest contract in league) heading into the 2010 FA class.

    I feel bad for T-Mac, but he must acknowledge that this is the prudent thing to do. I agree with Morey, but think he should have been more transparent with Mac and if he already was, then I feel comfortable placing the blame squarely on Mac's shoulders. A few games in a non-championship season is worth a lot less than 80% of every game he misses for the organization.

    I can't wait to see Mac in action though. I think he will be good. I think that these extra few games will give everyone a comfort level and will give him further incentive to prove himself. I wish him luck.
     
    #1 Mathloom, Nov 20, 2009
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  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    The Rockets are paying him $23 million dollars this year.

    They should do whatever is in their own best interests........period.

    I don't think they are insincere, they are just being cautious and don't want a repeat of the "I am back" "I am out" scenario from last year.

    Can't blame them for moving on....can you?

    DD
     
    #2 DaDakota, Nov 20, 2009
  3. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    If morey does this why would other free agents want to come here. FA were very willing to come here in the rudy era cause they knew they would get paid and treated fairly.
     
    #3 Air Langhi, Nov 20, 2009
  4. RMGEEGEE

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    There's a lot of shadiness goin' on, and honestly, I think it's within the organization and the coach.. not McGrady.
     
    #4 RMGEEGEE, Nov 20, 2009
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  6. Invisible Fan

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    Tmac's delusional if he doesn't think he'll get injured again within a year from playing.

    Or maybe he feels the same way and wants to lock in a contract suitor ASAP.
     
    #6 Invisible Fan, Nov 20, 2009
  7. twhy77

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    Did you just accuse the Rockets of insurance fraud?
     
    #7 twhy77, Nov 20, 2009
  8. Jeff Who

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    A- He is back right after the MRI
    B- He is traded right after the MRI
     
    #8 Jeff Who, Nov 20, 2009
  9. Bleeding Red

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    Les is tempted. :grin:
     
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  10. Rocket River

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    Hilarious

    ON THE REAL
    MY ANALYSIS
    TMAC thought he would come back the Savior.
    The team would suck . . .he' come back .. they would suck less but he'd seen as the one that improved it.

    The team is doing ok.
    He still sees if he comes back . . . he can get some credit for the success
    The rocket win 50 games with TMAC from here on
    His apologist will say . . WELL WE WAS DOING WELL BUT THERE IS NO WAY THEY COULD HAVE MAINTAINED THAT LEVEL WITHOUT TMAC

    From TMAC's side of things. . I understand what he doing
    THEY MESSING WITH HIS MONEY!
    He has to show . .. or the next contract. PERIOD

    IF the rockets are shady about saving money
    TMac is shady about trying to make his money

    MAKE NO MISTAKE
    It is ALL ABOUT THE MONEY

    Rocket River
     
    #10 Rocket River, Nov 20, 2009
  11. JBIIRockets

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    I think McGrady was insincere to the Rockets last year.

    He's not going to change. Of course the Rockets want to collect on the insurance money. Pretty smart move considering all the time he has missed in a Rockets uniform.

    McGrady brought this on himself by coming into the 08-09 training camp fat.
     
    #11 JBIIRockets, Nov 20, 2009
  12. Master Baiter

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    Now I have that damn song stuck in my head. THANKS A LOT!!
     
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  13. durvasa

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    Interesting.

    Is it just a coincidence that Minnesota would be the 42nd game, and that's the game McGrady said he'd target for returning? He knew, maybe through the organization or his agent, that the Rockets wanted to keep him out until at least then for financial reasons.

    This doesn't mean the Rockets are being totally insincere. There could be legitimate concerns about developing a new style of play early on and whether he returns for good or he's in and out like last year. So there are legitimate reasons for being patient. But this bit of information does help explain why Nov 18th was a "target date" for McGrady.
     
    #13 durvasa, Nov 20, 2009
  14. mms

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    The damn capitalism.
     
    #14 mms, Nov 20, 2009
  15. Rockets9495

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    Like I have said. There is just so much going on inside and what has already happened in the past with Mcgrady that its difficult to know what is really going on. I can tell you for a fact that this whole thing is not hinging on an mri coming up
     
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  16. abc2007

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    80% of Tmac's salary, that's a lot!
     
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    Mathloom: As I've already argued in the other thread, I think it's more than just collecting insurance money because it isn't just Morey keeping him out, Adelman is the one saying tmac isn't ready, and Adelman has no reason to worry about how much Les is paying tmac. Adelman's concern is winning, and his job security is tied to how many games the team wins. If Adelman doesn't think the current version of tmac improves their chances of winning now, leaving him out till he is, is the right thing to do.
     
    #17 saitou, Nov 20, 2009
  18. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I guess Tmac should not have signed that big contract then, huh?

    DD
     
    #18 DaDakota, Nov 20, 2009
  19. SmoothOperator

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    It always seemed weird to me that they scheduled the next MRI so far out even after McGrady had been cleared for full contact.

    Now it starts to make more sense.

    If it's not insurance fraud it sure seems like point shaving. Don't try as hard as possible to get him back as soon as possible. I could understand McGrady's frustration. He spent every day busting his ass and the organization is playing games.

    They can't really tell him why because then it's a lot easier to prove they were consciously manipulating the time frame.

    Let's all hope for the best case scenario. McGrady is cleared on Monday and starts playing immediately after. If there are no more set backs, and he plays well, then the insurance thing becomes a non-issue.

    Otherwise, I imagine this goes to court as insurance companies will try hard to enforce the letter of the law to avoid paying out.
     
    #19 SmoothOperator, Nov 20, 2009
  20. DaDakota

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    Yep, as I said, it could get really ugly......

    DD
     
    #20 DaDakota, Nov 20, 2009
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