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  1. Doc Rocket

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    Third choice is Odom...

    Second choice is Rashard...

    First choice....you do WHATEVER it takes to get Ming to Houston - period!

    Are they scouting the video? Yeah...

    Are they hoping for Rashard? Yeah...

    Have they heard the rumors about Odom? Yeah...just like everyone else.

    Get the Big Man. Get the Defense. Get the over-a-billion fans in China. Get the national media. Get some classroom space at a local high school and start teaching team basketball...or at least how to pass.

    But whatever happens, move KT, the 5, the 15, next years 1 or whatever, but get to #1 and get Ming.
     
  2. MoonBus

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    Doc posted a message for more than 1/2 hour and no one replied... wow!

    #1 pick is the only way to get Ming? There is no chance for him to slip to the 2nd or 3rd pick?

    Doc, I would be very happy if any of your 3 scenario occurs.
     
  3. cato13

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    I want Ming at all costs except for Steve, Cuttino or Eddie. And if we get Odom I would probably try to get floor seats. This is a pipe dream though.
     
  4. e-bull

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    All this hype on Ming, I've seen footage, just like everyone else read all the stats and articles too but, can he really live up to the hype and expectations? SERIOUSLY he, nor anyone else will be able to contend w/ Shaq. How does he compare to the other Chinese protege in Dallas? Name another dominating or even productive tall man 7'4" and above. I am NOT by any means knocking the guy or any posts, but rather being devil's advocate.
    As for Odom and Shard, can Rudy effectively use them in his guard oriented offense? Where will the touches come, since Griff should get more looks next year and Wink and Cat demand theirs.
    This has been posted before and I love our backcourt, but look what happened in Philly when AI when to the two and they installed a REAL PG. In my opinion the ROX should consider a similar move.
     
  5. bigboymumu

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    I don't know about this riddle. Doc, this one is tricky.
     
  6. lpbman

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    Ming will be the best shot blocker in the league in one of his first 3 seasons.

    Just because he can't contend with Shaq down low doesn't mean he can't play with Shaq. Ming has 3 pt range, and at 7'4 or whatever he is, Horry sure as hell can't guard him.

    An old Sabonis gave Shaq fits, if his body wasn't failing him.....

    I agree... anything but our main 3 to get ming

    I think that's easier said than done, b/c every other team has seen him play too.... He's not sneaking up on anyone like Gasol did last year.
     
  7. RunninRaven

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    I don't want Ming. Even AFTER the Rockets jump through all the hoops the Chinese are requiring of the team that drafts him, he STILL might end up a bust. I have heard rumors that Wang Zhi Zhi is considered by some to be better than Ming. Wang is not so great for Dallas, and Ming would have to be a LOT better than him in order for to want him at the #1 pick.
     
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    You can't worry about that because noone can contend with Shaq. Make people worry about defending your 7'6 skilled center. I realize that the chances of Yao Ming living up to his potential are slim. I realize that the team that drafts him might have to wait a year to obtain his rights. However, I am willing to take the gamble because I realize that the only way to win in the era of Shaquille O'neal is by something extraordinary and, in a sense, revolutionary.
     
  9. barbourdg

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    Big difference, I have read, is that Ming dominates around the glass and loves to dunk everything. Wang is an incredible outside shooter.

    I THINK MING might drop in this draft (not below 6-7). China seems to want him in New York, New York wants him in New York and I think Stern wants him in NY. I would not be suprised (if NY does not win the lottery) that China starts talking trash about his contract, so he will fall into NY's hands.

    Let the conspiracies begin!!!!
     
  10. cato13

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    I havent seen one ounce of footage on this guy but if he is half of what everyone is saying then I will take him. We need size, rebounding and an inside presence. Man, the bruh is 7'6. One thing you cant teach is size and at 7'6 he is gonna get in someone's way even if it is to alter a shot. No more freebies in the middle.

    Who cares if wont be able to stop Shaq. Who can? Not one person and most nights not two people. We just have to hope Shaq gets a bad back one day and decides to quit. He shouldnt last too much longer with all the punishment he dishes out and takes.
     
  11. lpbman

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    Actually from what I've read, Wang was an excellent all around player for China, not just an outside shooter. I'm not sure if it's Dallas' system or he's found the NBA a bit too physical inside.

    Ming once had 17 blocks in a game, when asked, he commented on blocks breaking the other teams spirit. Beautiful!

    Loving to dunk must be a recent thing b/c in China, they teach their players to go for the easy layup. I think I read something somewhere about Ming not dunking when playing for an NBA coach and the team running laps b/c of it but I don't remember where.

    If you haven't noticed
    I'm sold
     
  12. barbourdg

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    Does anybody know what it means about he can be draftef, since he is 21?

    Can his rights be drafted, even if he does not put his name into the draft? I know its a stupid question, but I keep hearing that since he is 21, he can enter the draft without China's permission (or something).
     
  13. The Real Shady

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    I agree that Les and Rudy will due whatever it takes to get Ming in a Rocket uniform. With the attendance being about the worst in the league, Ming will bring out all of Houston's Asian community to the games. If we get Ming the Rockets will sell out almost every game in Houston and in other cities. Ming is a huge money maker and the Rockets know this!
     
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    Luckily, the teams preceding the Rockets in the draft are likely to bypass Ming.

    Chicago- Too much invested in Curry and Chandler. I can't see those three coexisting on the floor together. They're set on Jason Williams or Dajuan Wagner.

    Denver- there's some very interesting trade possibilities that could arise between Denver and Houston, imo, if the Rockets are set on Ming.

    A team like the Nuggets, desperate for depth, would seem more likely to bite on a quality for quantity trade like we saw last year in the Griffin deal with New Jersey. They avoid any long term cap hits by acquiring rookies with the 5th and 14th picks, while at the same time picking up a small contract/big return player in Thomas as insurance for McDyess leaving or reinjuring himself.

    Everybody's happy.

    Memphis- this is the team I worry about......I'm sure thoughts of a Gasol-Ming frontline have crept through their heads.....but I'd like to believe that they go hard after Wagner, a Memphis celebrity, considering the uncertainty of a successful return to the court for Michael Dickerson.

    Golden State- They already have too much tied up in Foyle and Dampier (Cato-like contract). They're looking for a point guard, preferrably Williams, perhaps Wagner. Either way, I don't see them taking a chance on Ming.

    It's too much of a risk for a franchise that drafted Todd Fuller.

    Cleveland- there's still a possibility that they end up with the 5th pick, or higher.....they have too much money invested in Ilgauskas and Sagana (yes, THAT Sagana) Diop to go after another center though, even with Z's recurring foot problems. They're more likely to go after a Qyntell Woods/Jared Jeffries type player, imo.

    Why Ming....

    You can't be that tall and NOT make an impact. A player of his stature could literally just stand near the painted area and his presence would be felt.

    If he has skills remotely close to what is being reported....the passing.....the agressiveness inside....an understanding of the game.......he could be special, making him well worth the risk.


    By the way, if New York somehow magically wins the lottery and seizes our beloved Ming, I will burn David Stern in effigy............




    repeatedly...
     
  15. Mango

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    TPL,

    Any thoughts on the teams that will try to move up to get Ming and the trade packages they will offer?



    Mango
     
  16. NugzFan

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    everybody but denver.

    there is no way we do that deal. would you guys trade francis for our 4th pick, 14th (milwaukee) and posey? hell no you wouldnt.
     
  17. lpbman

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    The deal with the Nuggets would have to be conditional on McDyess wanting out of Denver.

    He hasn't been making any kind of noise lately but I remember him saying if Nick leaves he would too.


    who knows
     
  18. Chuck04

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    But we wouldn't have traded Van Exel and Lafrentz for Howard and Hardaway either.... :D
     
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    Nugz,

    I read tpl as saying our two picks plus KT for your pick (and filler)...he does not mean Trading McDyess - otherwise KT could not be insurance for you if McDyess is still injured.

    That, imo, would be a good deal for you.
     
  20. Mango

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    TPL,

    The Warriors passing on Ming is not a sure thing.



    Mango
     

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