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I have grown to HATE Russell Westcrook

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Sajan, Jul 11, 2019.

  1. smp

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    The point is the top teams in the west have stars who are inefficient. So that stat needs to be taken in context with actual wins/losses.

    Teams are dominating the league with inefficient stars on their teams.
     
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    What top teams have inefficient stars?
     
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    According to the poster earlier in this thread, these are the worst EFG players with at least 200 shots:

    1. Russell Westbrook ... 36.4 eFG%
    2. Nikola Jokic ............. 42.2
    3. Collin Sexton ........... 42.4
    4. Anthony Davis ......... 43.1
    5. Andrew Wiggins ...... 43.1

    Westbrook, Jokic, and AD are all on the worst list but on the top 4 teams in the West.
     
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    OP is this you?
     
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    True Shooting %
    Westbrook - 50.3%
    Jokic - 57.5%
    Davis - 60.9%

    Davis and Jokic are not inefficient.
     
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    Alright now. NBA players are waaaay to soft.
     
  8. larsv8

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    Here is a list of players who take more than 15 shots per game and their relative TS%. (Min 20 games played)

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    Here is the same list, but sorted by who takes the most shot attempts

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    WHY IS THE LEAST EFFICIENT VOLUME SCORER IN THE LEAGUE TAKING THE THIRD MOST SHOTS?

    This is not rocket science.

    STOP DOING THIS:

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    FFS, 65% of his shots are outside of the rim and he is hitting almost none of them.

    Just ****ing stop!
     
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    get your point, but who else is gonna take the shots when Harden is out? EG was out and he's back now, so we should see WB's FGA go down a little and hopefully efficiency up a bit since he can be a bit more selective with his shots
     
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    Literally anyone.
     
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    . You’re right, I think we’ve been jaded from back in the mvp battle days. I hope we can move past it so we can give him some good vibes.
     
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    Basketball IQ is an extremely underrated quality
     
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    Oh now we are back to true shooting percentage. All the stat geeks told us all how EFG was the important stat. 3>2 etc. You can’t have it both ways.
     
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    Some people don't want to hear this truth. Come out like roaches when he has a bad game.
     
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    EFG is an important stat, and tells you one thing.

    TS is also an important stat, and tells you another thing.

    Both are measures of efficiency in different contexts.

    Russ is terrible in both of them, other "stars on top WC teams" are not terrible in both of them.
     
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    You have misunderstood everything. The numbers those tweets referenced were effective field goal percentage ON JUMP SHOTS. Not ALL of their scoring.

    I assure you Jokic and Davis have very, very solid effective field goal and true shooting percentages overall. MUCH MUCH MUCH better than Westbrook.
     
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    Are you a fan of the Rockets or a fan of #'s?
     
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    That's a cop out answer.

    We don't have players that can get their own shot off other than Harden WB and maybe Gordon. Rivers usually has one move where he straight line drives.

    House has been pretty abysmal lately while trying to dribble and drive. McLemore pretty much only catch and shoots. Tucker only catch and shoot, maybe a floater once a game if there's a open lane.
     
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    Gotcha. I didn’t see that it was only jump shooting EFG. Good point.
     
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    TS incorporates the same weighting of 3>2 that eFG does, so this isn't a "can't have it both ways" scenario. Also, that number from the tweet is eFG on jumpshots only, not overall eFG, which is a very important distinction. Both Davis and Jokic have good overall eFG.

    EDIT: oops, it looks like @jordonnnn beat me to it and already posted this exact same thing
     

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