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I do not support a livable wage

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Air Langhi, Jun 7, 2017.

  1. Air Langhi

    Air Langhi Contributing Member

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    The issue is when you have such a low wage the government is essentially subsidizing people for food and healthcare. If I were Ossoff I would literally play that clip over and over as my ad.
     
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  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Jacking up the minimum wage is always a great way to get the support of stupid people, honestly it should be part of every election. Dumb people who make the minimum wage will think that they are going to be better off when in reality all they are doing is turning those who used to get by into minimum wage employees on the struggle. It's a great way to make the poor and middle class poorer, make the not quite poor become the poor, and make the rich richer all in one quick motion. It's just an amazing issue to push for.

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    You are 100% correct. Very good illustration. It really is just a matter of common sense.
     
  4. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Paying people $8 an hour so they can get welfare and food stamps and then getting the government to do away with welfare and food stamps because I need my taxes lowered and those people are lazy anyway is just common sense yo. After all, a rising tide lifts all boats. Get a jerb!
     
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  5. Space Ghost

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    The illustration is a little inaccurate. The pink houses value actually erodes also. But yes, the illustration in which those between the $7-$15 range after the increase is doing nothing more than dragging them down to poverty level.

    Raising minimum wage beyond inflation only destroys the wealth of those who are above the old minimum wage but below the new minimum wage. If a person was earning $14.90 before, they are not going to get a $8.00 pay raise like the $7.00 employee did. They will get a .$10 raise. For the life of me, I dont understand why the idiots on the left dont understand this.

    I think we should take care of our people. But if you get government assistance, then you should only get the minimum necessary to live.
     
  6. Rocket River

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    1. You can work 38 hrs a week at 8$/hr = 304$/Wk = 1216/ month
    ---- out of this your have to pay RENT, Transportation, utilities, clothing, incidentals
    ---- This will not include any benefits because you are not technically full time

    Generally people. . . . people want people to work for minimum wage rather than welfare because it is the MORALLY right thing to do
    HOWEVER from a personal point of view it is a HORRIBLE ECONOMIC thing to do

    If My benefits are more than what I would make on welfare. . . Why would I work?
    IF people who are on minimum wage cannot get welfare . . . . why would they work?
    Why are we allowing Walmarts of the world to pay minimum wage and the WE pick up the tip to supplement their workforce?

    Rocket River
     
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  7. Rocket River

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    You statement is . . . . kind of interested.

    WHY - Should someone on Gov Assistance get the minimum necessary to live
    BUT
    Someone working 40 hrs a week should not?

    Rocket River
     
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    This argument kinda boils down to the Wal Mart issue..... states and the federal government are subsidizing their workers because Wal Mart pays little.
     
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  9. dmoneybangbang

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    The federal minimum wage should be raised to inflation and let the states decide if they want it to be raised any further. There's too much variance in cost of live between states.
     
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  10. Amiga

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    Not so sympathic to the well off losing a few low value assets.

    Large profitable corp should pay back the government on any assistance the government provide to their work force as a whole in order for them to work.
     
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    My cousin works as a greeter at Wal-Mart. Dude makes like $12/hour. In Warner Robins, GA, not exactly an expensive place to live. Wal-Mart is certainly a poster child for this, but even when I worked at Wal-Mart a decade ago I made over $2 more than minimum wage. They did do some BS crap they shouldn't have, but they pay over minimum wage. Minimum wage is more often small business and restaurants.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    That's not how it works, the truly well off will still be well off, it's the middle and the poor that suffer when you do that. You increase the size of the poor class and reduce the size of the middle class while everyone at the top is richer by comparison. It's complete nonsense.
     
  13. CometsWin

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    Corporate welfare is the Republican way.
     
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    If your business can't survive without paying slave wages, your business shouldn't survive.
     
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    is she r****ded? Sure "i don't support a livable wage" but follow up with something that isn't complete horseshit. The "difference between a liberal and conservative line should have tipped me off.
     
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    A slave wage is $0 so that applies to literally no business operating in the US.
     
  17. Rocket River

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    Not really .. . . you have to include clothing, sheltering and feeding into that equation
    The money does not go to the slave but the expense is put on the business

    Rocket River
     
  18. Amiga

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    why would the poor and middle class suffer?
     
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    I support a die-able wage.
     
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  20. JayGoogle

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    No, that's not what it means. It's a specific term with a specific meaning, that's why 'wage' is added after 'slave'.

    If he had just said slave then you'd have a point.

    A slave wage is a wage so low that the worker works just to survive. It's also termed as 'wage slave'.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_slavery
     

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