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I am wondering how come Rox are in the Playoffs with 3 games left

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by reptilexcq, Apr 10, 2004.

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    reptilexcq Member

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    Surely Portland is eliminated and would not be able to catch the Rox...but Nuggets and Utah still have 3 games left and if they won all 3...and let's assumed they won all 3 and Rox lose all 3 then all 3 teams are tied up record wise. If that is the case, then how did the Rox still get in the Playoffs since Rox have no tied breaker advantage over Utah and Nuggets and their division record and conference record are worst than those 2 teams. So i don't get how they give them a Playoffs berth right now after last night win.
     
    #1 reptilexcq, Apr 10, 2004
  2. Vienna Calling

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    This topic has already been discussed in numerous other threads:

    Three-Team-Tiebreaker:
    "Best head-to-head winning percentage among all teams tied"

    Assumed we have the same record as Utah an Denver (44-38), which is THEORETICALLY possible:

    Head-to-head results
    Denver 5-3 (Den-Utah 3:1, Den-Houston 2:2)
    Houston 4-4 (Houston-Den 2:2, Houston-Utah 2:2)
    Utah 3-5 (Utah-Den 1:3, Utah-Houston 2:2)

    We simply cannot finish worse than 8#

    Got it?


    YES, WE'RE IN !!!
     
    #2 Vienna Calling, Apr 10, 2004
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    You still did not answer my question. How is 2-2 tied with those teams make the Rox the better team. Afterall Rox have the worst divison record and conference record than those 2 teams.
     
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    Gee..I think he explained pretty well.
     
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    Read the big thread that has talked in depth about it for the last 2 weeks

    http://bbs.clutchfans.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74197
     
    #6 JPM0016, Apr 10, 2004
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    Haha ..you're funny. You don't total up the wins between the 3 teams and determine who is the better team overall. ...that's rediculous. If that's the case, you might as well total up all the 82 teams they played. No ....what you do is look at the record of how the Rox did against each team. And so if assuming the Rox lose the rest of the 3 games...they're tied up 2-2 with those 2 teams and this does not make the Rox the better team and so they will have to rely on division and conference record to determine who is the better team and from what i saw...Rox will be elimiated if those 2 teams won all 3 games and the Rox lose all the 3 games.
     
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    They are in, nuff said and what the hell is rediculous?
     
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    I don't get it, he explained it perfectly. I'll add the percentages just to make it clearer if that is what you need.

    Three-Team-Tiebreaker:
    "Best head-to-head winning percentage among all teams tied"

    Head-to-head results
    Denver 5-3 (Den-Utah 3:1, Den-Houston 2:2) 0.625 Win%
    Houston 4-4 (Houston-Den 2:2, Houston-Utah 2:2) 0.500
    Utah 3-5 (Utah-Den 1:3, Utah-Houston 2:2) 0.375

    So you see it doesn't matter if houston is 2-2 against both teams. Because Denver is 3-1 against Utah, it dropped Utah's winning percentage among all COMBINED below the rocket's winning percentage of 0.500.
     
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    don't waste your time with this guy.
     
    #10 JPM0016, Apr 10, 2004
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    Are you trying to be funny or just extreme s........ oh well...click the link the other user posted, Rockets is offical in playoff on NBA website.

    Have a nice day.
     
    #11 uac, Apr 10, 2004
  12. Xenogears

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    Yeah i was in the middle of writing my response before i saw his reply. He clearly does not understand the concept of the 3 team tiebreaker.
     
    #12 Xenogears, Apr 10, 2004
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    Like i said...you don't total up the wins between the 3 teams and determine the percentage. You ONLY look at the wins Rox has against each of those teams and if it happens to be tied up ...then you go to the division record and determine who is the better team....and if that tied up as well...you go to the conference record.
     
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    Well, Mr. Know-it-all, it seems that you and the NBA differ on this point, because they called the Rockets before last night's game to confirm the situation. We are in.

    Give it up.
     
    #14 Bailey, Apr 10, 2004
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    I'm going to give up on you as you lack the intelligience to understand a simple concept. You only go to division record and conference record if it is a TWO team tie breaker in which case the rockets would lose to both utah and denver. However, in the case of a THREE team tie breaker, the combined winning % among all 3 teams in games against each other takes PRECEDENCE over the division and conference record.
     
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    Lock it, he's not listenting.
     
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    If that's how the league determined a 3 team tie-breaker...obviously there is a flaw there because if the 3 teams happend to tied up record wise....i don't see how the Rox being better than those 2 teams....after all if you look at it realistically...they're 2-2 against these 2 teams and their division and conference record are worst than those 2 teams. So how is the Rox better than those 2 teams?? I mean realistically??So what if Nuggets had a 3-1 lead over Utah ...it has nothing to do with Rox. Not to diss the Rox...i am just making a valid argument about the determination of a Playoffs berth and i think there is flaw there.
     
    #17 reptilexcq, Apr 10, 2004
  18. Xenogears

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    Go call David Stern to whine about it then. Why the hell are you b****ing about the rockets making the playoffs?:mad:
     
    #18 Xenogears, Apr 10, 2004
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    there aint nothing valid about your argument.

    it also has been clarified in not one but TWO threads already...and yet you are too freaking dense to catch it.

    go to the Magic Number thread that is locked, and the We Are In thread for clarification.

    WE ARE IN!!!!!!!

    accept it.
     
    #19 Rockets2K, Apr 10, 2004
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    I lack intelligence?? Oh i know very well what you're saying but i don't agreed with it. I bet you don't even have the brain to argue with me in any subject that you can come up. Name any subject...let's go!!
     
    #20 reptilexcq, Apr 10, 2004
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