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Howard Dean and white Christians

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by langal, Jun 8, 2005.

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  1. langal

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    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/06/08/MNGVND590S1.DTL&type=printable

    Dean may be hurting his own party with these types of statements. Do some Democrats feel the same way as he does? There are plenty of smart Democrats on this board and I wonder how they feel about Dean. Are his tactics a little too blunt for his job?

    I also wonder if he gets this sort of publicity and scrutiny simply because he is a high-profile figure and ex-Presidential candidate.
     
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    http://www.scrappleface.com/MT/archives/002217.html

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    Dean: Dem Poll Workers Can't Tell GOP Voters Apart
    by Scott Ott

    (2005-06-08) -- Many Republicans probably voted for George Bush dozens, if not hundreds, of times in 2004, according to Democrat party Chairman Howard Dean, "by taking advantage of the fact that Democrat poll workers have difficulty distinguishing individuals from among a crowd of white Christians."

    "Thanks to their pale skin, round eyes and khaki trousers, Republicans just blend in," said Mr. Dean. "So they vote, get in the back of the line and vote again. And because they've never made an honest living in their lives, they could do that all day long."

    The party chief announced that the Democrat National Committee will invest $50 million in developing protocols to help poll workers tell the difference between one Republican and the next.

    A spokesman for the DNC later clarified the comments, noting that, "Chairman Dean intended his offensive remarks to be heard only by party loyalists, not the general public."
     
  3. wouldabeen23

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    Not bad Basso...not bad
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    My favorite is his recent blast about how "most Republicans have never done an honest day's work in their life".
     
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    well....

    if the shoe fits...

    :D

    I guess that's better than the democratic party being called freedom haters and Saddam lovers.
     
  6. langal

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    I don't think any Republican official (much less the RNC chair) has made any blanket remarks about Democrats like that. Maybe someone here post a quote if it has been documented.
     
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    His comments may fire up the base, but I don't see them convincing anyone that's on the fence to vote Dem next time around.
     
  8. mc mark

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    Langal to be very clear. I think Dean is speaking out of his ass. And I don't agree with what he said.

    But you can't deny the way Ed Gillespie and others have attacked the Democratic party. Or anyone who doesn't lock step to the admin swingtime.
     
  9. basso

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    we call it schwingtime...
     
  10. RocketMan Tex

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    Basso, it's good to see that even you admit the leaders of the Republican party are a bunch of dicks!

    :eek:
    ;)
    :D
     
  11. basso

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    that's big dicks to you...

    [​IMG]
     
  12. MadMax

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    This guy is truly nuts. I can not imagine how or why Democratic leadership thinks this guy is the one who will help them take back Capitol Hill or the White House. I don't get it.
     
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    I'm pretty sure their feeling is, "Hey, at least he has balls. And this way he probably won't run for president again."
     
  14. Saint Louis

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    Dean, Bush, Kerry, Clinton, Liebermann, Biden, Clark, I could go on. Where does the political parties find these yo-yos. Is this the best leadership our country has to offer? It's like the mafia, dumbed down several times.
     
  15. langal

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    Maybe Rudy T should run for some Texas seat in 2006 - whitehouse in 2008.
     
  16. basso

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    We most assuredly are not jiving you: Howard Dean--scion of Park Avenue, former governor of Vermont, a state that is 96.8% people of pallor--is faulting Republicans for being white, even though he himself is whiter than an albino polar bear with dandruff.
     
  17. GladiatoRowdy

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    And what about Bush? If he was any more caucasian, he would be translucent.

    (not my joke, that was Will Durst talking about Sr., but funny nonetheless)
     
  18. basso

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    uhmmm, the difference is, dean actually suggested republicans are too white. as far as i know, W has never said any such thing regarding dems, which makes durst's comment just stupid, ie, not funny.
     
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    I'm not a Dem, but Dean's comments aren't any different than what any number of GOP officials have said, including calling one democrat a C:eek::eek: t, and saying Democrats are dumb, etc.

    The Democrats have been so spineless lately and the supporters have suffered under a group of politicians that were afraid to take a stand on anything. Dean is trying to energize those folks, and he's coming out swinging. I have no idea whether it is effective or not, but it doesn't concern me, nor do I think it is a brilliant move on his part. It is just politics as usual. I guess I wish Dean wouldn't do that, becuase it is devisive, but the GOP does the same thing, and I wish they wouldn't either.
     
  20. langal

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    I get where you're coming from, but I don't think any Republican is on record as having said something like "all Democrats look the same and thing the same, etc. etc. None of them work, etc."

    If something like that has happened , I would think it would have generated a lot of buzz.

    Of course, I am sure that plenty of high-ranking Republicans do think those things about Democrats - they probably just haven't incorporated it into a speech.

    Dean's tirade caught my eye because I'm a Chinese Republican and I'm certainly no Xtian. He just also seems to be more of a detriment to the Democrats than an asset.

    Perhaps he should be given another position where his views and comments would not be construed as representative as the whole party. As the party chairman, his comments naturally represent the whole Party to some extent. Maybe Dean could host a radio show. I'm sure it would be popular, energize Air America , and it would give him a wide audience and he could say whatever he wanted.
     

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