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How valuable was the 6 million trade exception part of the Ariza trade?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by W22_STREAK, Aug 20, 2010.

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  1. W22_STREAK

    W22_STREAK Member

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    I think a lot of posters here, (probably that extends to unregistered readers too), underestimated the power of the 6 million trade exception we got from the Ariza trade. Lots of attention was poured and focussed onto the player for player part of the trade with the trade exception part of the deal seen as much negligible. Maybe in the past we did not utilise any trade exceptions we got, but I believe this is much important to the success of any major trade we swing for a superstar. (im looking at you Melo =D)

    Trade exceptions are sometimes much more valuable than expiring contracts, as they provide INSTANT cap relief. Whereas the team would still have to pay the remaining of the expiring contract. A trade exception? = INSTANTLY EXPIRED contract.

    We can easily take on Chris Andersens contract.

    Morey does see outside the box. :D
     
  2. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I believe the Rockets have let a good number of their trade exceptions expire.

    I am not sure there is a great answer to your question, if they get a deal done using it, then it was very valuable, but if it goes unused, then not so much.

    It does give them flexibility, but not in the Superstar range, but in the MLE and lower range......if they need to absorb a contract or get a lessor known player to help facilitate another team's trade.

    To me, I think it is more about them getting a free asset to help 2 other teams make a trade.....

    Sorry for the ramble though.

    DD
     
  3. Cakewalk

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    lol please state more obvious things. everyone knew Ariza for Lee is purely financial.
     
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    I think it is about as valuable as 6 million dollars.....
     
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    I agree, if the Nuggets rebuild that is a guy I think Morey could target. I could also see either him waiting to till next offseason to use it or if Yao breaks down again during the season, making a play for a guy like Gortat.
     
  6. W22_STREAK

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    it is financial on the surface, but it is one of the smaller trades that better sets us up for the knockout superstar trade
     
  7. DaDakota

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    Not really, you can not combine it with players......in a trade. It has to stand alone.

    So the most you can get is a player making the MLE, those are not $6 million a year players.

    DD
     
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    I see your perspective on the use of the TE. I think its logical that Morey could choose to do that with the TE, but since Morey took over we never had a large enough trade exception that could have been a factor in any significant trade we would have taken. With our Lux Tax bill piling up I hugely doubt Morey would take on a contract like Marcus Banks or something in order to get a first round pick like Seattle did with the Kurt Thomas trade. We aren't in rebuilding mode so the only way I see us using the TE would be to absorb a junk contract as part of a mega deal we would undertake. Smaller deals such as the Ron Artest deal would not require the use of this TE, and a team trading a superstar would surely want to unloading a contract as well.

    It will be interesting to see how Morey uses this
     
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    You could still make a second trade with the same team, right? You make one trade that involves the superstar for some assets, then combine that with a second deal in which we take a $6 million per year player off their hands in exchange for the exception.
     
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    This is a fairly bigger TE, so Morey I thunk will use it of course for good.
     
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    It can actually be helpful in putting together a larger trade if it enables the Rockets to either take a bad contract off the other team's hands (in a separate but simultaneous trade) or to get a third team involved.
     
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    So, there is no way we can use the trade exception to get a star player? Not even in a multi-team deal?

    This is important, because it even makes me understand the Ariza trade even less than I already do.

    Let me see if I can get this straight. Here are some assumptions I'm making which can be argued:

    1.) The Rockets #1 prize is a second star player next to Yao...particularly a wing since it's our weakest position.
    2.) Rockets have a higher chance of trading for a star player than signing one.
    3.) So...we salary dump one of our best and most logical TRADE assets for a trade exception we can't even use to help acquire a star player?

    Please someone tell me this is not true.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Totatlly true, as long as the bad contract is not above the MLE......

    And as I stated above, I think it's biggest value is in facilitating other teams trades and getting basically free young talent.

    DD
     
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    Beat me to it!
     
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    Al Jefferson was basically traded for a TE, so that should give you some indication of how valuable it can be.
     
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    Another possibility is:
    The TE can last for 1 year. That means at 2011 summer, rocket will about to have 2 MLE to sign free agent (most likely character players). In other words, Morel can freely trade out our current character players for a big star by the trade deadline. We can then fill up our roaster with 2 MLE next summer.
     
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    I have a question.

    Can a larger TE be used more than once in different trades?

    Say trading part of the $6.3 million TE or a $2 million player then trading again with another team for another $2 million player...
     
  18. DreamShakeFTW

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    Not that I think Morey would do that, just curious...
     
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    Pretty sure that answer is yes. I can remember us using parts of trade exceptions before, leaving whatever is left. What you can't do is combine 2 or more smaller trade exceptions to make one big exception.
     
  20. joesr

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    Shouldnt the title be is? Since it is still current.

    Reading the title I almost thought we did some kind of trade and used it.

    (is instead of was)
     

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