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How to Pick up a Difference Maker in a Series Against Lakers

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Jun 10, 2009.

  1. Carl Herrera

    Carl Herrera Member

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    As the playoffs goes on, it's become clear that the Lakers are at the top of the Western Conference-- and probably the top of the league. Regardless of where we think the Rockets stand in the overall scheme of things, it seems pretty safe to assume that, in order to have aspirations of winning big, the one thing that the Rockets (and every other Western team) needs to think about this offseason is what they can pick-up to best improve their chances against the Lakers in a 7 game series.

    This is not to say that you don't have to worry about how you match up with the other teams, but it seems that the Rockets are doing pretty well in most instances anyway. If they get Artest back, and stay relatively healthy, this team will probably get a decent seed in playoffs. They'll probably try to pick up a young guy (or two) in the draft to maximize assets-- they'd be good moves, but I am thinking about what they can do to make a significant improvement to their chances next April/May/June against Kobe, Gasol & Co.

    I am interested in hearing what everyone thinks would be a difference-making move to get this team over the Lakers Hump.


    My own thoughts on what kind of players can make a difference (and be at least remotely possible to attain):

    A. A Gasol/Odom Killer: It seems that the one thing (beside, you know, having Kobe Bryant) that makes Lakers so difficult to beat is that both Gasol and Odom are so skilled as big guys. Their ability to both score and pass, while still doing the traditional big guy things like defend the paint and rebound, create easy opportunity that other teams just don't get.

    There aren't too man guys who can really fill this role, but here are who I can think of:

    1. Lamar Odom: Getting Odom would completely neutralize Odom. He is a FA. Lakers are not likely to let him go-- even less likely to trade him to a rival. But they are paying tax. Perhaps the thing to do is to put together some sort of S&T offer-- and at least drive up his market price a bit (and maybe make him a little unhappy if the Lakers are denying him money).

    2. Rasheed Wallace: He is still as good a defender against good post players as there is in the league. The Cavs are thinking about getting him as a Howard-stopper, he can work as a Gasol-stopper, too.

    He's unlikely to take the MLE (but if he does, GREAT)-- I think the way to get him may be through some kind of S&T involving Scola or Landry (he needs one of their minutes anyway) plus contract-filler Cook.

    3. Jeff Foster: He's like a big Chuck Hayes. And I like Chuck Hayes in any size.

    B. Offense Orchestrator: Someone who get the offense to run less mechanically, and avoid long droughts I think would make a significant difference in how a 7 game Lakers series turn out. The best guy here is probably Steve Nash. The Rockets tried once to get him, and I'd think Morey is still interested.

    C. A scoring wing who is not afraid of Sasha Vujacic: Rockets did a good job on Bryant this series, but it woudl be helpful if they can force Kobe to expend more energy on D. Theoretically, Von Wafer was the offensive wing player and a Wafer/Artest lineup would force Kobe to pay more attention on D, butWafer was easily neutralized by Vujacic and was frankly useles. Maybe McGrady can come back healthy, but can't count on that. I am thinking either another Artest-type to beat on Kobe or perhaps a Rip Hamilton to run him off screens Reggie-Miller style.
     
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    Who else knows Pau better and would play him harder than his own brother? That's who we need..
     
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    Number One - We need a wing who can command double teams on the perimeter. If we had a healthy T-mac, we beat LA.
     
  4. swakid8

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    and a healthy Yao
     
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    Just imagine the Rockets beating the Lakers in game 7. That game 7 determines if we were champions or not.

    But I believe we can take the Lakers in 7 game series when our whole team is healthy. Lakers destroyed Jazz, and the Nuggets when both team were full strength but the Rockets gave them the run for their money with both our superstars sideline with injuries.

    Hopefully we can keep our core group of guys and do like a S&T for a player who can make the big shots and the scoring we need in order to make it over the hump.

    Like a Rockets fan I am, I can only keep dreaming until it come true
     
  6. foo82

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    So..our solution to an Odom killer is getting Lamar Odom. Makes sense to me!
     
  7. foo82

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    Honestly though. I don't think Odom is going back to LA. I don't think they can afford him.
     
  8. BrooksBall

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    The key to landing Odom:

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  9. HowsMyDriving

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    no to odom. no to rasheed wallace.

    both are overpaid, both are inconsistent. rasheed played lazy this whole year, but he skated by on his rep. he's just not the player he used to be. odom is too much of a wildcard. hell, i know quite a few laker fans hope he leaves, because they hate his game so much, and don't want to overpay for his 1 good game out of 4, when he feels like it.
     
  10. Carl Herrera

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    I disagree.

    The whole Pistons team was dysfunctional, but Rasheed Wallace was still pretty effective. He is a great complementary player and there wasn't enough on that Pistons team for him to be complementing. I think Sheed will thrive when put on a winning team. Sure, he plays like Tim Thomas when he has the talent to be Tim Duncan, but that actually works for a team with enough guys going to the post. He's still 6'11'', still a smart and effective defender when he tries. People with these skills can be effective into their old age (see PJ Brown).

    As for Odom, he plays well more like 3 out of 4 or 2 out of 3... he's inconsistent, but it's as good as you are gonna get from a guy who isn't a true superstar.

    I think both guys are easily worth $8-10 million per year.
     
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    Would a deal for Marcin Gortat work as an UFA as he leads the NBA in rebounds per 48 minutes at 17.1 and is only making a little over $700,000.00 this past year? He'd be a big presense in the paint, is aggressive on shot blocking and runs the floor pretty decently and Stephen Jackson, Corey Maggette and Rony Turiaf of Golden State for McGrady would give the team the wing in Jackson and the slasher and perimeter shooter in Maggette and Turiaf is downright hostile on the low block defensively at shot blocking.

    These players would allow the team to let Wafer walk or play for the lower level exception, and all that would be left is to sign Artest. These players would change the entire offensive attack of the the Rockets and by keeping Barry and Battier the team would be loaded with perimeter threats and have a thick big man in the middle to even pair with Yao if the matchups dictated the two bigs approach.
     
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    I thought Artest did a great job on Lamar.
    Hayes played well on Gasol.
    Yao could slow down Gasol enough, but I like him on Bynum even better.

    Honestly, healthy we beat the lakers. No doubt in my mind.



    We could use a back up center with length, who can run.
    No doubt Morey will find him for us.


    I'm against lessening our defensive core. Our team has heart and its chemistry only grows. Pray it stays healthy, that is all.
     
  13. Alvin Choo

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    Lakers have both Ariza and Odom into the FA. It will be nice to get either of the 2.

    But the real difference maker will be health as usual.
     
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    The Odom negotiations are going to be very interesting. Only teams that can offer him a big contract are non-playoff teams who probably won't be interested. That makes it tight on him. He may have to use the leverage of signing with a contender like the Rockets for a modified MLE with an opt out to get LA to pony up for him.

    Can you imagine Odom walking to the Rox for the MLE while we re-sign Artest? LA isn't going to let that happen. That is Odom's leverage with them.
     
  15. WALAWALA

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    One of the reason Odom want to leave LA is because he want to be the starter. But with Gasol as Lakers foward, he got no changce in LA.

    If Rockets gets Odom and places him in the starting lineup. Then Scola has to move to bench. If Rockets don't trade him away.

    It might work well if Scola becoming Yao's backup. Then you solve many problem.
    1. Got a good Backup center(Scola). And in some case Scolar can start and Yao don't even need to play the whole game.
    2. Neutralize Odom by take him away from Lakers.
    3. Neutralize Gasol as Odom will play extra hard against Gasol to prove himself( hopefully)
    4. Les willing to pay luxury tax only if he can get a good player, and this is the one.

    Signed
    NOLANOLA
     
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    x1,000,000

    Many people don't want to wait and play the healthy game again, but it is just so tantalizing what this team could do.

    We could beat the Lakers healthy. We have one of the most beastly defensive cores in the league (if not the most). Remember the "pitbulls" comment. I hope we don't break these guys up for one more year - only if it's to move non-essential guys like McGrady, Barry, Dorsey and (to an extent) Wafer.
     
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    I like and dislike the Wallace idea. Like it because he'd be great Yao insurance and can also play with Yao because of his range. Don't like it because we get much older (assuming either Scola or Landry would need to be moved or sit) and that's not the direction we want to go in.
     
  18. bjshot

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    I feel very sorry that there are so many disbelievers in this board. The current roster is good enough to dominate Fakers and NBA league if they are healthy. Even if without Tmac and rafer, they still had better chance to win.

    For me, I think an experienced pure pg should be priority.
     
  19. Carl Herrera

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    Think of it this way instead, we are getting 10-years younger at the backup center spot.
     
  20. Angkor Wat

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    Exactly. Pretty much a healthy team and we beat the Lakers.
     

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