How to convince a Yao-only-fan to be a Rockets fan?

Basically you don't. Nothint wrong with being a temporary rox fan while Yao plays with them. It's about time though that Yao demands a true. Them not getting him the ball and JVG's coaching of him is getting to the point of ridiculous. It's time for Yao to move, so Yao can come back and dominate to show them what they were missing by bowing down to the pressure of steve francis.

 

demands a trade I mean

 

The point is, you'll insult the real rockets fans by pretending to be a fan of the team, when in actuality that will never be the case. It's much better and more honest to do what I do and proclaim to be a temporary rox fan so long as Yao is still on the team. They probably wouldn't hate you any less, but at least it's honest.

 

You're just dead wrong. I got to see Yao get "froze out" in person tonight at the beautiful Toyota Center. The man could not fight for position to save his life. I love Yao but when you're watching him suck for 3 quarters and getting handled by Chris frickin Mihm, you realize that he should not be in the game when the outcome is being decided. They tried to get him the ball almost every time down but he was in no position to.... ever. If anyone heard yells of "Get that scrub out of the game!", that was me. Frequently.

If you stick with a team through its highs and lows, then you're a real fan of a team. I think most of the YOFs don't even like basketball.

 

JVG must not have heard you cause Francis was still in the game.

 

I'm a big fan of Yao but sometimes he frustrates me in the same way that Nachbar playing defense does. It's just painful to watch, you want them to do well but when they're not helping their team win I don't want them in the game. Besides Cato's lack of range, Yao KILLED our inside game against the Celts.

 

Time will do everything.

I was a YOF before. I don't care ROX anymore.
Because of him, I nearly saw every rockets game.
As time goes by, I found myself become a rockets fan,too. I also really like his teammates and his team. What a change!

And because of you all here, change me a lot,too.

 

i'm a rocket fan, i was a fan from the moment i started watching basketbal (because i'm from holland that wasn't when i was 10 years old or so but later). i do not mind that there are yao only fans, if they are honest, i hate it when people are saying that they are rocketfans but they aren't.
i'm not against yao only fans posting, but i hate it when people are to negative, i have had some discusions with true rockets fans because i tought they were to negative (like Dadakota).
i also do not like the fact that alot of people keep insulting other posters(i think that became worse when Yao was drafted).
so if you are a yao only fan, and you are honest about it, and you aren't to negative (this point i think is the least importend of the 3), and you are polite most people will not dislike you. the one thing you shoudn't do as a yao only fan is bashing the entire team and not see yao weaknesses.

 

It's great to hear how some of you guys who disliked the Rockets as a team are now embracing them (supporting) to win. I have never been a fan of only one player. Even when I think of the Hakeem days there were still over players around him who I would root for just as hard.

It is much more pleasent to read a post from a user who supports the Rockets as a team, and not just bashing a player.

 

but yao is god, yao has no problems...

 

The problem with YOFs is simple: They aren't objective, nor are they very observant of the game.

Case in point:

1) Yao was not getting the ball because he couldn't fight off the fronting of McCarty (a 6'9'' SF) and Mihm, and the few times he did do this, he couldnt keep his man sealed off for more than a split second.

2) YOF, and others like to preach the lob pass. Not effective, more than a couple of times a game for several reasons. a) One of Yao's weaknesses is catching the ball in traffic. b) Another of Yao's weaknesses is catching the ball on the move. c) Yet another one of Yao's weaknesses is his quickness to the ball.

Combine a) b) and c) and there is a higher than normal probability that the ball will be turned over when trying to execute a lob with a weakside defender guarding the lane.

3) JVG (and Ewing) can only show Yao the techniques to combat these problems. Its up to Yao to execute what he is taught. To this day, he has not done so consistantly.

The fact that so many people think that Yao would be better off with new coaches just blows my mind.

Lets see. Rudy T, one of the better coaches in NBA history wasnt good enough. Larry Smith, pound for pound one of the best rebounders in NBA History and someone who no doubt is well versed in rebounding technique, wasnt good enough as a big man coach. JVG, one of the better coaches in NBA history apparently isnt good enough either. Patrick Ewing, a HOF caliber center, who, as JVG said, built his career on solid technique, fundamentals and heart in lieu of talent, now isnt good enough either.

How many coaches do we have to go through till YOF realizes that maybe the coaces arent the problem, and Yao is, with regards to his shortcomings??

4) Trading Yao to another team is not going to all of the sudden transform him into a dominant player. Trading away Yao's teamates is not going to all of the sudden transform him into a dominant player.

Great players make their teamates around them better, not vice versa. Yao's teamates are not preventing him from being dominant. Yao is.

5) If Yao is "bowing down to the pressure of Steve Francis", then Yao is not ready to dominate anyway and does not have the personality to become a great player.

As it is, our best chance to win games, albeit not always the best of chances, is with the ball in Steve or Cat's hands. Yao is not dependable in the post, with his moves or his positining. Until he is, I am not sure how anyone can really complain that Steve is the #1 option with the ball.

Go ahead and trade Steve Xonegears. As inconsistant as he is, I would hate to see our offense having to depend on Yao every posession.

Thank God for Steve and Cat. We would be much worse without them.

 

My 2 cents....

Everyone should read codell's post at least twice. Twice is a minimum.

And then add these factors...

Yao learned RT's offense, a new offense this summer with the CNT, and now what JVG wants him to do. All of that and intense weight lifting too in a 15 month period. The operative word for all Rockets' fans (Yao only, Steve only, Cat only, VG haters, PRC's, and everything in between) is patience.

36 games for this team is not enough time and...

 

Gater,

Thanks for adding that. Some of us are patient, and some others want to trade everyone because the team is inconsistant.

We have to wait for Yao. The fact is, his game and body werent equipped to deal with the NBA style of play his rookie year. The fact is, although he has improved, his game and body still arent equipped to deal with the NBA style of play.

The saving grace is, Yao is a) No doubt talented and b) No doubt smart. I think over time, hell make up for his shortcomings with exeperience and veteran know-how. *knocks on wood* It will take time though. But until that time comes, this team is going to have to depend on Steve and Cat for leadership and because of that, we will be inconsistant.

 

I'm not a Yao fan, I'm a "play with heart, don't make many dumb mistakes, and hit a jumper every once in a while" fan, three things we haven't seen in a long time.

 

Amen.....

This Yao worship is borderline ridiculous. I think it is a Hakeem wishaholic problem with a large overdose of Asian pride. he is what he is. A second year want to be superstar. He is very good. Again, he is very good. He is not great. This team's focus and efforts are far too skewed around him. The SF/Cat/MoT/JJ/Cato squad is better. He should be a 6th man. That would probably help his stamina....