Just a question, I know that this is something a lot of people are pushing for, and I actually found my self agreeing to this, for the simple reason that evolution and Darwin's theory are still in my mind theory. I don't think we should completely rule out other theories also. However, if intelligent design is to be taught, how should it be taught? I mean do we start with guys like Zeus, the Pluto, then other religions (Judaism, Chrisitianity, and Islam) as other possible theories? Or is it just going to be that a higher being created this world? What about other scientific theories, some of which I heard were we we are basically scientific experiment of aliens. I know a lot of the Christian right are pushing this, but I want to know how is it going to be presented. Because if it's going to be presented in a trully scientific method where all the hypothesis are presented and possibilly tested, then I would have no problem with that, though I think creation of the world might have to be it's own class at that point to cover all the theories.
As there is no scientific proof to the existence of a god, I dont think that intelligent design should be taught in a science class. Maybe have one year (7th grade? 8th grade?) where a "religion" class is taught, which touches on all the religions of the world/history of religion etc. Then a humanities class regarding religion for an 11th or 12th grader as an elective? When discussing evolution in biology lessons, intelligent design should be mentioned as a possible theory, but certainly not dwelled on and analyzed as if it were a proven fact.
Everywhere except the school where my kid will go. That way my kid can excel in science and mathematics while everyone else's kid is focusing on religion. 12 years later my kid will have a full ride to Vandy, and the college funds I put aside will fund my early retirement.
It should be taught at the drive-thru window at Burger King. But NOT McDonald's because we have to maintain our separation between McDonald's and State.
my sentiments exactly. intelligent design or creationism or whatever its being called these days should be kept out of science class. it has nothing to do with science. however, i would not have a problem w/ religion classes or even a christianity class - of course that would open the discussion up to whether or not it should be required or an elective. as a christian who believes in "science", i have no problem reconcilling the two. i believe in a supreme being, and things like evolution are simply the processes or tools that god uses to create and develop our world. for me, its not an "either/or" issue.
cause it is IMPOSSIBLE for someone to hear intelligent Design and still thrive in math and Science Rocket River
So how do you feel intelligent design should be taught? Like I've said, I think it can be taught in school, but I'm just not sure the manner in which it can be taught.
I think it should be taught in Political Science, as a case study in how to manipulate public opinoin. Or it could be taught in the Scientific Method chapter as an example of what is Science and what isn't. Or it could be taught in math and statistics as an example of how people fail to grasp concepts of very large numbers as in 'infinite possiblilities' or billions of mutations. Or it could be taught in Psychology as study of why people accept religion as truth in the abscence of proof and refuse to accept provable theories as the best version of truth.
It should be simple mentioned that Evolution is construed by some as the mechanism used about an intelligence to create/modify/improve life on this planet and then move on Rocket River
Taught in Sunday school by someone who can not differentiate an atom from a molecule, a fact from theory, thier ass from a hole in the ground, etc.
I don't understand why people of religion cannot adopt this similar view. Science doesn't necessarily have to contradict religion. If you believe in a God, why can't you believe that he uses this scientific processes to develop his world? Why can't they believe that something like "the Big Ban theory" happened through God's will? Opposing science is futile. It is composed of proven facts that help us understand the world we live in. Religion is based on shaky ground or what one would call "belief in the unseen." Why must the two oppose each other? Is it out of the realm for Christians for science to support religion?
I have no problem with it being taught, but it should be in the philosophy class, and not in science. Although it should be discussed in the sciences, especially biology. DD
honestly, i don't personally know a christian who would disagree with anything you just posted. i'm certain there are loud people out there with different opinions (carl everett ) but i've never met one. EDIT: in fact..you bring up Big Bang. that in particular is HUGE for Christians. because it does support the Biblical concept of "the beginning." Before the Big Bang Theory evolved, scientists were convinced the universe was eternal..that there was no beginning. Well...looks like there was.
Oh. Well, I personally know a lot of Christians and Muslims who get very angry at the mere mention of anything scientific in regards to creation. We must run in different crowds.
really?? that's too bad. i've been in lots of different denominations. been to many different churches. have friends very diverse in their beliefs, both in and out of faith. what you're talking about isn't something i encounter.
One of my best friends goes so far as refusing to believe in dinosaurs. And no, my friend isn't Carl Everett. I know a lot of people who even object to evolution being taught in school! So Max - as a Christian, you believe in all of these scientific processs (ie: natural selection, evolution) as tools of God?
