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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Batman Jones, Jun 13, 2006.

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  1. Batman Jones

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    LOL, i saw this live when it aired. this anchor was PREPARED to shred the guest into pieces. anyways, it was good entertainment and i am impressed how she recovered onto the next news story.
     
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    I dont know man, that lady deserves every bit of the trashing she got.
     
  4. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Fox News sure loves having this psycho on. This one follows the Hannity and Colmes interview. Maybe next she can be on O'Reilly or On the Record. When Fox News is bashing you for being too anti-gay, you might have a problem.
     
  5. Batman Jones

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    Bigotry and hate are petty misdemeanors compared to the felony of rudeness. Just ask giddyup.
     
  6. giddyup

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    Just shuddup, Batman! :)
     
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    I think you need to link that reference cuz I'm lost.
     
  8. Batman Jones

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    There are so many instances it'd be hard to pick one. The latest has giddyup complaining that I use the words "bigot" and "liar" too much. Of course, he never makes a substantive argument explaining how the bigotry I complain about is not bigotry or lies that I cite aren't lies -- he just says he's sick of my rudeness. This Fox anchor was as "rude" in confronting bigotry as I've ever been on this BBS doing the same, so I figured he'd like the opportunity to chastise her. Apparently not.
     
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    As usual, you oversimply the argument to get to your point of ridicule. In other threads, I've lambasted this hateful woman from this woeful church. There are times when decorum is wasted. This video evidence was certainly one of them. Sorry that I've flouted your convention for me.
     
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    Good. Now you know how I feel when the president of the United States lies about foreign threats in order to start a war in which thousands and thousands die, lies about warrantless spying on Americans and lies about the lead up to the worst natural disaster in our nation's history to dodge blame. You also now know how I feel when a great number of our citizens are discriminated against or when priests rape young boys or when American soldiers willfully torture or murder innocent people or when a moneygrubbing hatemonger spits on the memory of victims of 9/11 or slanders their widows.

    You do not get to decide for me when "decorum is wasted."
     
  11. giddyup

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    But you get to decide for me when you want to shut down Ann Coulter? :confused:
     
  12. Batman Jones

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    God, you're frustrating. I strongly believe that Ann Coulter's quotes about the 9/11 widows were sick. I further believe that any defense of them (apart from free speech arguments) or agreement with them is sick. So I said so. And you said you were sick of my rudeness. Fine. You're entitled to your opinion. But your opinion clearly indicates that you find rudeness to be a greater sin than any of those things that inspire my angry language. And my opinion is that that opinion is dumb. Hence, this thread. It's really very simple.
     
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    Jeez.

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    that Julie Banderas is pretty hot.


    I wish they would post pics of some of the newsbabes in bikinis and stuff.
     
  15. giddyup

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    You said her remarks were sick, I indicated an <b>agreement</b> that they were in poor taste. Yet I was still drawing attention to the distilled message; <b>I never echoed, elevated or celebrated the comment by Coulter.</b> If anything I criticized its tone and bluntness. Then your side starts with the name-callilng without any regard to the point she is making. That's why I posted the Mary Matalin thing I came across.

    I did somewhat defend Coulter's language when I felt that you all were taking it to the point of ridiculousness as you tried to accuse Coulter of saying that these women actually "enjoyed" their husband's instant incineration. That is just patently ridiculous and nothing Coulter has said hints at that in any way. I asked you a pointed YES/NO question about whether you think AC was saying that these women "enjoyed" the thought of their husband's instant incineration. You've yet to respond, so I'll take that as a NO which completely substantiates my point.

    My being sick of your rudeness was overdue. It only takes a straw to break the camel's back. Just how many times should we sit back and watch you call somebody a liar or a bigot? So I reminded you that you have gone overboard with the personal attacks. It was a one line reminder and you continue to harp on it and even started this thread about it...
     
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    Mary Matalin has been the only public figure to excuse or defend Coulter's hate speech. You're in great company. You did say the remarks were in poor taste, yes. Kudos. Kind of like saying Genghis Khan was sort of a jerk. Any names I called Ann Coulter are much deserved. She can't be called enough names.

    Um, don't do that. I didn't respond because I thought your insane contortion act spoke for itself. You're the first person to suggest that Coulter might have meant they enjoyed their husbands' "incineration." She didn't say that and neither did I. And neither did anyone else. Here's what she said:

    "I've never seen people enjoying their husbands' deaths so much."

    Here's what you said, unbelieveably, just now:

    "you all were taking it to the point of ridiculousness as you tried to accuse Coulter of saying that these women actually "enjoyed" their husband's instant incineration. That is just patently ridiculous and nothing Coulter has said hints at that in any way."

    No, giddyup. NO. We did not try to accuse her of that. We accused her of saying they "enjoyed their husbands' deaths." Which she did. It was not taken out of context, it was not spun, it was not interpreted. It was a direct quote. And if she was somehow being misunderstood, she's had several very public platforms with which to correct the record. Incredibly, your position is to say she didn't say a thing she said while accusing me and others of twisting her words. I mean, I can't even believe it -- even of you.

    How many times should you "sit back and watch [me] call somebody a liar or a bigot?" As many times as someone lies or exhibits bigoted behavior. I call murderers killers too. Deal? I promise you that you are not as sick of me using those words as I am of having cause to. You're absolutely right I started this thread about it. I did that because it is r****ded to continually defend liars and bigots and then get angry at me for calling them what they are. You do that constantly and I'm sick of that too. In that other thread you tried to parody an old post of mine by calling a lot of things lies when they weren't. I'd break them down but they're obvious for all to see. Conversely, I challenge you to find one instance of me calling someone a liar when they haven't clearly lied. You can't do it.
     
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    Well for what its worth defending the crazy church lady or Ann Coulter is DUMB. I dont care what side you are on, they both are pyscho chicken heads.
     
  18. Batman Jones

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    giddyup disagrees. He says that the crazy church lady (who is a bigot, by the way, though giddyup wouldn't like me saying that) does not deserve decorum but criticizing Coulter is rude name calling. That's some kind of tightwire.
     
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    There is a gulf between Coulter and the church lady. There is no tightwire. Coulter has a reasonable criticism (within her objectionable language); the church lady is just hateful.

    Giddyup corrects. I have to think you do this intentionally Batman because I certainly don't think (or call) you stupid. :D
     
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    Can you re-phrase what Coulter said without re-using the controversial word "enjoy?" Maybe this would help. When I looked up "enjoy" I only found the two separate meanings-- one leading to my suggestion of what Coulter was saying and the other leading to the outlandish version that I suggested you were hinting at yet have only denied and have yet to supplant with something else.
     

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