In general, what percentage of your total tab (or per drink) do you usually tip? What sort of things factor into the decision? Friendliness, speed of service, how much cash you have and the price of drinks, or just your own sense of what makes a fair tip?
I believe it is different in Europe then in the usa. But in holland the standart is between 5-10%. i always tip 10%, but alot of people i know think i tip to much. if the bartender is unfriendly, i tip less. but then he has to be very unfriendly. When they are extremly friendly i might tip more. But i almost always tip 10%. i used to be a waiter, but that was not my thing i always forgot what i was carrying, and had to go back to the kitchen to ask again.
If it's per drink, I'll usually just throw the change (or a dollar) into the tip jar at the counter - but overall it's probably less than 15% of what I've ordered over the course of a night. If I get a tab, then it's 15% guaranteed, probably more the more intoxicated I get, unless they're completely rude and slow as hell (without just cause) and everything's horrible, then I tend to be mean back and only give 10%
If its a guy, I usually do a buck a drink, but it depends...If its hot chick, more...If I run a tab, i usually do 20%, rightly or wrongly...
Do you guys think that, because you tip a female bartender more than the males, that she's just going to hop over the bar and start making out for you? Why give EXTRA money to a woman you're never going to see again?
When I was in Canterbury, England some kids we met took us to a neighborhood "college" bar where all their friends hung out. I went to the bar to get a beer and it took a while for the bar maid to get to me as it was very crowded. After she serverd me, I paid her and gave her an extra pound (like giving an extra doller here in the states - only more expensive) and she actually gave me the pound coin back and told me that I gave her too much! I told her that it was for her but she looked at my kind of confused. So I said that I was from the States and that it was a tip and it was just what we did when we purchased drinks. Her reply was "It must get quite expensive". So, she took the pound probably thinking that I was an idiot. However, every time I subsequently went to the bar I never had to wait again. She was right on me and took my order pronto. So, while she might have thought me an idiot, the tip did what it was supposed to do.
Kelly we all know good looking people make more money.. I mostly go to the same places and it's the same people behind the bar, one week I leave a good tip and the next week the same lady could give me a few drinks on the house.. it all works out in the long run, plus I dont want to seem cheap.. said, but true..
i agree with you. i think it's ludicrous that someone's physical appearance should have any bearing on how much you tip. now, if they were slobs with ketchup stains and beer running down their shirt, i'd understand. but just b/c one chick is hotter than another, she doesn't deserve more money on something she can't control. so you don't want to seem cheap in front of a hot chick, but it's okay to seem cheap with a not so hot chick/guy? the fact that good looking people make more money should encourage all of us to tip the not so attractive ones much more. i just think alot of guys are deluding themselves when they think tipping a hottie more than usual is gonna change her willingness to go home with you. __________________
Hey, I'm just telling it like it is.. do I think a woman is gonna go home with me for an extra few dollars when I'm already at the bar with a woman in the first place?? HELL NO, but it's just the way things work.. why do Bar tenders wear so little clothing in the first place, because they know it works... why do they have Beer Tub girls, Hooters Girls or Booth Babes?? They're there to help bring in the mighty dollar.. It's the American way..
I was a bartender from 2001-04, and believe me, this isn't coming from sour grapes or anything like that because I'm a dude. I tip way too heavily on all drinks, no matter who it is, just because I know what a crap job it can be (and usually is). I just never understood the "I'll tip more and he/she'll like me" bit. Because, let's face, that's why these people tip more. I never understood why borderline-drunk girls (and they had to be, to want to jump my bones) would flirt and then tip me an extra 2-3 bucks -- like they think I'm going to close up shop then and there to go home with them and make babies. It's just nutty. And I can tell you for a fact that these hotties would much prefer a quick and painless transaction (no ham-hock flirting or silliness) to an oversized tip.
Yes, but, my question is -- why do you tip the hottie at the beer tub more? What are your expectations? What drives it?
NICE GUY EDDIE Okay, everybody cough up green for the little lady. NICE GUY EDDIE C'mon, throw in a buck. MR. WHITE Uh-uh. I don't tip. NICE GUY EDDIE Whaddaya mean you don't tip? MR. WHITE I don't believe in it. NICE GUY EDDIE You don't believe in tipping? MR. PINK (laughing) I love this kid, he's a madman, this guy. MR. BLONDE Do you have any idea what these ladies make? They make ****. MR. WHITE Don't give me that. She don't make enough money, she can quit. NICE GUY EDDIE I don't even know a Jew who'd have the balls to say that. So let's get this straight. You never ever tip? MR. WHITE I don't tip because society says I gotta. I tip when somebody deserves a tip. When somebody really puts forth an effort, they deserve a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, that ****'s for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doin their job. MR. BLUE Our girl was nice. MR. WHITE Our girl was okay. She didn't do anything special. MR. BLONDE What's something special, take ya in the kitchen and suck your dick? NICE GUY EDDIE I'd go over twelve percent for that. MR. WRITE Look, I ordered coffee. Now we've been here a long ****in time, and she's only filled my cup three times. When I order coffee, I want it filled six times. MR. BLONDE What if she's too busy? MR. WHITE The words "too busy" shouldn't be in a waitress's vocabulary. NICE GUY EDDIE Excuse me, Mr. White, but the last thing you need is another cup of coffee. MR. WHITE These ladies aren't starvin to death. They make minimum wage. When I worked for minimum wage, I wasn't lucky enough to have a job that society deemed tipworthy. NICE GUY EDDIE Ahh, now we're getting down to it. It's not just that he's a cheap b*stard-- MR. ORANGE --It is that too-- NICE GUY EDDIE --It is that too. But it's also he couldn't get a waiter job. You talk like a pissed off dishwasher: "**** those ***** and their ****ing tips." MR. BLONDE So you don't care that they're counting on your tip to live? MR. WHITE Do you know what this is? It's the world's smallest violin, playing just for the waitresses. MR. BLONDE You don't have any idea what you're talking about. These people bust their ass. This is a hard job. MR. WHITE So's working at McDonald's, but you don't feel the need to tip them. They're servin ya food, you should tip em. But no, society says tip these guys over here, but not those guys over there. That's bull****. MR. ORANGE They work harder than the kids at McDonald's. MR. WHITE Oh yeah, I don't see them cleaning fryers. MR. BROWN These people are taxed on the tips they make. When you stiff 'em, you cost them money. MR. BLONDE Waitressing is the number one occupation for female non-college graduates in this country. It's the one jab basically any woman can get, and make a living on. The reason is because of tips. MR. WHITE **** all that. MR. WHITE Hey, I'm very sorry that the government taxes their tips. That's ****ed up. But that ain't my fault. it would appear that waitresses are just one of the many groups the government ****s in the ass on a regular basis. You show me a paper says the government shouldn't do that, I'll sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll vote for it. But what I won't do is play ball. And this non- college bull**** you're telling me, I got two words for that: "Learn to ****in type." Cause if you're expecting me to help out with the rent, you're in for a big ****in surprise. MR. ORANGE He's convinced me. Give me my dollar back.
Expectations---like I said in my early post, when I tip better the next time I vist I may get a free drink or two or topshelf doubles at the price of a single well. What drives it--- No good reason, other and the shallow excuss of I like to look at a good looking woman.. there is no tangible goods being exchanged, but that's the way it works.. I know it's wrong, but beauty is hardly ever a bad thing when it comes to making money.. ask Tillman, all he has in his upper offices at the Landry's group are tons of HOTTT ladies.. it seems men just like it better and more easly spend the cash when a good looking woman is around... Flamingmoe, I love that part in Reservoir Dogs
