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How much can we afford to re-sign Bonzi one year later?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by ymc, Sep 28, 2006.

  1. ymc

    ymc Member

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    Suppose he plays well this season. Do we have the cap room to sign him for MLE or more in the next off-season? :confused:
     
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    Good question.

    Easy if the season goes either bad or (extremely) good. Toughy if it is only "mildly satisfactory," such as a 2nd round exit. Wells will always ask for more, but the management will have a hard time to decide.
     
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    The rockets will only be able to offer the MLE, and yes they will not go into luxury tax threshold if they do offer it to him.
     
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    yeah we dont have his bird rights either. isnt it something where you have to keep him for 2 years, so we can get his b.rights? capologists please help on this one.
     
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    Based on the last 2 years raises in the MLE, what woudl next year's be expected to be?
     
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    3 years.
     
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    Somewhere around 5.5 - 6 mill most likely. Not that it matters all that much.
     
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    We can offer him 5mil a year in any # of combo years so 3 years would be 3yrs-15million or 5yr-25million and so forth I believe. Theres alot of major free agents that command more money next offseason too, so 5mil just may get Bonzi back JUST MAY!!
     
  9. Jeff

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    That's ASSUMING he plays great this year and is worth the re-sign. We just don't know.

    I'm happy we got him for bargain basement cost at this point. I'll settle for that for this season.
     
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    I think it's fair to say Bonzi signed with the Rockets because he could stand to play well with so many talented players around him and as a result, cash in at the end of the first year. We more than likely won't be able to afford him at the end of the year unless he makes the same mistake next year he did this year(overvalue himself and hold out on signing until most offers were already off the table). That's not a likely scenario.

    Some team will overpay for him next year and steal him away from Houston because there is no way the Rockets are going into luxury cap space to wrap up Bonzi....
     
  11. xomox

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    playing very well in the post season only did not get him the contract he wanted. so we can expect him to kick ass throughout the season to better his chances in getting the pay he wants. if he succeeds, i think he will be out of range.
     
  12. ymc

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    But his numbers may not look very good because he is at best the 3rd scoring option.

    You might argue he can prove his value because we win more games than two years ago but we can also say Battier also plays a part in that.

    It is entirely possible that he only gets similar regular season numbers like he was with the Kings. Since we can offer MLE, he can only go to the other teams if the other teams offer a bit more than that. In my opinion, not too many teams can do that. With a twist of luck again, we might just be able to keep him here with an MLE. :cool:
     
  13. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    The most bonzi will make next year will be the MLE. No team with cap room will spend it on Bonzi. We can't do a sign and trade for more than the mle since we don't have his bird rights. If he does well this year will probably give him a fulll MLE deal for the max years.
     
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    That would be nice! :cool:
     
  15. Kim

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    The Luxury tax for next year should be around $69 million (give or take a few million).

    The Rockets will have about $58 million tied up (they will exercise Luther Head's team option) or $61 million tied up if they decide to team option Kirk Snyder.

    They will have T-Mac, Yao, Battier, Howard, Alston, Sura, Head, V-Span, Lucas, and Novak under contract (and maybe Snyder), which makes 10 or 11 players total.

    That puts them over the cap, so their only signings can be with the MLE and the BAE (bi anual exception).

    MLE will possibly be $6 million
    BAE will be 1.83 million
    and of course they can sign anyone to minimum contracts

    Anyhow, I assume that they will try to re-sign Chuck Hayes. They don't have his full bird rights, but they might have his early bird. The thing is early bird rights get established after 2 years without being waived or being a free agent, and Chuck Hayes came here in January, so I don't know.

    So either they don't have Chuck Hayes' early bird, which means they can only re-sign him with BAE or MLE money, otherwise they can offer him a 1 yer min. to attain his Bird rights.

    If they will have his EBR then they could offer him $1.4 million/year for 2-5 years or about $5.8 million per year for 2-5 years.

    So I'm thinking it all depends on Chuck Hayes. There will be several possible ways of resigning Chuck Hayes.

    The Rockets will be able to spend about $8 million without reaching luxury tax level...so in theory they could sign Bonzi to a full MLE deal starting at around $6 million a year and they'll still have $2 million to sign Chuck Hayes, or decide to use all that money somewhere else.
     
  16. MemphisX

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    My advice to Rocket fans:

    Your core is Ming, T Mac, and Battier. Be grateful you got Bonzi. He should be motivated for a new contract and his best behavior. Howeverb, you do not want to be the team to give him a long term deal.
     
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    My advice to Memphis fans:

    A slow start puts you out of the race altogether and you won't have your star player. Bet you wish you still had Bonzi and Battier, eh? Enjoy having Swift. He's great. We know.
     
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    If they don't have his early bird rights the Rockets can still offer him 120% of this year's salary or league minimum without going into the mle or lle.
     
  19. Kim

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    Cool, I didn't know that.

    The main thing is that the Rockets have roughly $8 million before hitting the luxury tax (this isn't for sure until next summer, so it could be more or less by a few million).

    That's a big factor.

    So basically there are a bunch of ways to re-sign Chuck Hayes (from $1 million/year to possibly $5 million/yr), and the Rockets would still have 2 exceptions, the roughly $6 million MLE and the $1.83 million BAE.

    The thing is would Les Alexandar maximize team spending potential by re-signing Hayes AND using the full MLE AND BAE. I don't think so...I mean I hope so, but I think most owners (Alexander included) try to avoid the luxury tax like the plague.

    So imo, the Rockets will have about $8 million next year (minus whatever Chuck Hayes re-signs for) to spend. Do they go after Bonzi again, or do they get shooters?

    I think this topic is best for next off-season, cause there's a lot of basketball that needs to be played.
     
  20. compucomp

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    Why bash MemphisX when he's right? I do not want to see the Rockets signing Bonzi to a long year contract either. Look at what happened with the last big contract he got; he turned into a selfish malcontent who got run out of Portland and Memphis.
     

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