How many more championships will the Rockets win in your lifetime?

And you think that signing an aging 38 year old Hakeem would have won us a championship? If not, what's the point? You don't know WHAT is going to happen. Nobody thought the Lakers would mature enough to win a championship this soon they did. Nobody knew if the Rockets would the titles in the mid-90s it did. You saying that the Rockets will probably not win any titles is like me saying the Lakers will win 5 or 6 more titles, NOBODY knows, because nobody can predict the future. And again, you make it seem like it is simple to re-sign Dream. If it was simple, the Rockets wouldn't be forced to trade away players to make room for signing him. And trades don't come easily.

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So what were the odds that the Rockets would win that first championship?

What were the odds that the Rockets would win 2 in a row after going through so many years without winning it?

I want my team to be in the best possible position every year. I trust the front office and coaches in knowing what should be done to produce the best team. If they think they'd be better off not overpaying for Dream, then I believe them.

Whether Dream retires a Rocket or not, it won't really matter 5 years from now. He'll always be remembered by everyone as a Rocket and nothing else, definitely not a Toronto Raptor.

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[This message has been edited by Pete Rose Mobster (edited July 27, 2001).]

 

And who would have thought that trading away Moses Malone at the peak of his career would have set the table for those 2 championships, albeit many years in the future? Sentiment, as it pertains to professional athletes, is a very wasted emotion.

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Yes, especially if the Rocket's management makes personnel decisions based on blind loyalty and unrequited committment to its superstars.

Hakeem is willing to hurt the franchise for monetary gain, so I say- ship his ass out the door!

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DOH!

Anyways I guess I might as well stop watching sports cause what is the point?

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[This message has been edited by R0ckets03 (edited July 28, 2001).]

 

You could feel the earth shaking from a mile away when that post rolled into town.

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hey the saints won a playoff game .

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The Rockets will win at least 5 more championships in my lifetime, but I'm putting my bet on 9 . . . I have about 50 more years to live or so, and I think we could pull that off.

BUT, in that time span, the Boston Red Sox STILL will not have won a world series.

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TheFreak may very well be right. It is extremely tough to win a championship... it depends on many different factors - staying injury free and luck for example. Philly was lucky Carter missed that last shot of the series. LA was lucky that half the Sixer's team was decimated by injuries (although they still prolly would have won.) Even if we assemble the absolute perfect team, anything could happen. Francis could tear an ACL, Griffin could get hurt, chemistry problems could appear, or missing the last shot of playoff series to win - much like Vince Carter did.

But, regardless of all the crap I mentioned, I still want the team to be have the best possible chance of winning. Just because the Rockets probably won't win another championship, we might as well resign Olajuwon and honor his memory? That's not the right way to think - that's the pessimistic view. You must always aim to win it all... otherwise you won't. Plain and simple. Resigning Olajuwon will not do us any good next year, or the year after when Franchize, Mobley, TAylor start to hit their prime, and Griffin starts to establish himself. That will not put us in a position to win - havin an old center that won't even make it half the season.

The city of Houston has won exactly 2 major professional championships in its entire history. And you all think that's suddenly going to change by acquiring a role player from some perennial lottery team?

No not from acquiring some role player only. We will win based on the development of Francis, MObley, Griffin, Taylor, and all the other youngins. Having a young, improving role player center will only bolster our chances.

IN summary, just because the Rox franchise hasn't won as many championships as the Bulls, Celtics, Lakers, etc. doesnt mean that they cannot do it. The clippers were the sorriest team for so many damn years... now teams are beginning to fear them and within a year they should be a perennial playoff team. Things change. I also prefer to look at it this way - instead of saying the Rockets franchise has only won 2 championships during its entire history (a measly 2/30), I say the Rockets franchise under Rudy T. has won 2 championships, which is a much better percentage. How long has Rudy been coaching anyway?

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[This message has been edited by alaskansnowman (edited July 27, 2001).]

 

Come on. Houston's championship drought is largely due to 3 factors:

1. The Astros are mid-market.
2. The Rockets are a relatively recent addition.
3. The era of free agency is relatively new

The odds of any team in a capped league winning a championship over a long period of time are 1 in however many teams exist in that league... + or - a few % points for current roster and management.

The Rockets will probably win another championship in the next 30 years... they're nearly certain tow in another during my lifetime.

And I'd rather field a competitive team than reminisce over the glory days. I'd hate my last memories of Hakeem to be "oh yeah, that guy... won a couple of championships, but overstayed his welcome and really sucked those last couple of years... think we gave up some talented young PF to keep him."



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The sad thing is that while the astros aren't really mid-market, the ownership is mid-market.



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Factoring in the continuing advances in technology, health, medicine (and assuming another tropical storm doesnt wipe out decades worth of medical research)...hmmmm...I'd have to say about 76 more championships in my 322 remaining years..

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The Rockets have actually been one of the more consistently good teams in the league. We haven't won as many championships as others, but we have had a nice amount of success, making it to the playoffs MANY times, and having gone to the finals 4 times (or more?).

I'd say we're one of the better franchises in NBA basketball.

As far as the Astros is concerned, I take issue with the idea that Drayton is not a great owner. Just look at our record before him, and after him. We won 3 straight division titles and have had one of the best records of the past 10 years. Just because we gave up Everett and Hampton doesn't make him a bad owner -- we did well with that -- Hampton wouldn't have stayed, and Everett needed to be moved for Berkman and Hidalgo to have PT. Drayton made a mistake last year by looking cheap, but on the whole, he's been the best owner the Astros have had, and I think he gets a worse rap than he is due.

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"And I just have to smile and say 'well, I hope so' while I'm really thinking inside how I'd like to just strangle them and take their job."

 

Hunsicker deserves the credit for those 3 division titles, he managed to build a good team with a very limited payroll. A good owner in my opinion is someone willing to pay anything to make his team succesful. A bad owner is one that refuses to pay market value for his own free agents. I will give Drayton credit for locking up Bagwell and Hidalgo, he's making small steps for me, but I still see him as a bad owner b/c of him trading away Everett. You don't say "Build this stadium so I can compete" and then trade away one of your best players when the stadium has finally been built.

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So you run and you run to catch up with the sun but it's sinking,
Racing around to come up behind you again.
The sun is the same in a relative way but you're older,
Shorter of breath and one day closer to death.

 

Hey, what about the Comets and the Aeros of the WHL? Don't they count for anything?

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"Hey, what about the Comets and the Aeros of the WHL? Don't they count for anything?"

No.

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Quit being such a Drama Queen, honey, or I'm gonna take off my high heels, and there's going to be trouble.

I don't how many championships I'll see in my lifetime, but I think that overpaying for a 38-yr old center just so some of you can reminecse on the glory days over warm beer isn't going to increase the chances any.

Don't fight the future.

[This message has been edited by Tolpatcsh Verkinder (edited July 28, 2001).]

 

Your prediction is ridiculous. I'm pretty sure that Houston will see champioships again. I'm not sure if you noticed, but everything sports related in Houston seems to be improving. I don't care though. Even if a lifetime of losing is inevitable I'll still be a Houston fan because that's what TRUE fans do.

I'll agree with you that I do want Dream to resign depite what others say, but why should we keep any of our players if they're just wasting their time.

I hope this board is still around when The Rockets are contenders again and possibly winning championships. I'm pretty sure it will be I just hope you're around to eat your words.

Houstonian.

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