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How many ex-Oilers fans have left the Texans bandwagon to join Vince's Titans?

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Kamel, Apr 30, 2006.

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How many ex-Oilers fans have now left the Texans bandwagon to join the Titans

  1. Yes, I have changed my ways and am now a Tennessee Oilers fan

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    20.5%
  2. No way.

    133 vote(s)
    56.8%
  3. I will cheer both teams.

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  1. Kamel

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    How many ex-Oilers fans have now left the Texans bandwagon to join the Vince Young Tennessee Oilers bandwagon?
     
  2. ima_drummer2k

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    I cheer for my favorite team, not my favorite player.
     
  3. Mr. Clutch

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    They are the same old Oilers. I'm sorry Vince has to play for an accursed team like that.
     
  4. KDavis

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    i cheer for the texans, but i wish the oilers never left. Id much rather have floyd reese thatn casserly. The oilers will always have a soft spot in my heart just like the astrodome.
     
  5. Furious Jam

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    Thou shalt not root for Bud Adams or any of his disciples. To merely gaze upon his likeness is to be cast down into the dark pits of flame for all eternity.
     
  6. SamFisher

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    Difficult to say. I lived and died by the Oilers and outside of beating Dallas in their first game, the Texans have done absolutely NOTHING to endear themselves to me, and seem to have gone out of their way to be as bland and unlovable as possible.

    Not having lived in houston for years I need somethng more to latch on to, be it winning, personality, whatever. But the Texans have offered nothing, and I'm not sure when they're going to have either of these things.

    On the other side when the OilerTitans moved I tried to hate them but ultimately I couldn't. I liked Steve McNair and Eddie George during their brief time in Houston - great players and stand-up guys. I couldn't not pull for them in their late 90's, early 00's heyday - I really wanted them to beat St. Louis in that epic super bowl, and I hated that those Ravens teams of thugs like Lewis and headed up by smug asshat Billick that seemed to get all the lucky bounces and have their number.

    Likewise, I have always been a BIG fan of Jeff Fisher, funny guy, good coach - (the opposite of Capers, btw).

    So, despite leaving town, the Titans did more to endear themselves to me than the texans did (though I admit my enthusiasm for the Titans has waned as the old guard and the last of the Houston Oilers like Bruce Matthews etc fades away).

    This year, one of my favorite college players ever (I went to school out of state, but I didn't mind jumping on the UT bandwagon this year and have no qualms about it. They were a great team to watch) wrote a fantastic chapter in Houston/Texas/college football history. Having the Houston native come home to the Texans rekindles visions of Hakeem, or Earl, or Ryan, or CLyde other great hometown/state heros suiting up for Houston. It would have been so awesome and definitely gotten me firmly in the Texans corner.

    Now of all places he goes back to the Titans. I wil definitely follow their games more closely, but not as fanatically as I used to when I was an Oilers fan. THe fact that he has ended up there just seems to drive home the anguish of the Oilers leaving even more, over a decade later. Which is pathetic that a grown man would feel that way, but it's true.

    Back when the Texans first were on the scene, I was glad that Bud Adams forbid them to be called the oilers. It was a dumb name with dumb ugly uniforms anyway. But you know what? Now I wish more than ever, perhaps after bottomline Bud kicks off, that some form of the columbia blue oil derrick would be running around reliant stadium. It would give expat nostalgia saps such as myself an extra reason to pull for the Texans, which I realize probably isn't a concern. But still - what's in a name?
     
  7. swilkins

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  8. DaDakota

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    Great post Sam, I concur 100%.
     
  9. RIET

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    This is exactly how I feel. I grew up with the Oilers.

    When they left, absolutely despised Bud Adams and wished him all the worst

    I was very excited to get a team in Houston..... until they hired Casserly (which I was a big opponent of from day 1).

    Realized we were in trouble when they selected David Carr who was a decent QB at Fresno State but not franchise ability. Im almost positive Bob McNair did it because of PR to put a "face" on the Texans.

    Then instead of letting him ride the bench, they threw him into the fire (once again for PR) and lett him get pounded and turned him into the next Dan Pastroni.

    No offensive line for the next several years while drafting Travis Johnson, Joppru, Tony Hollings, Charles Hill, Jason Babin, Jabar Gafney, Seth Wand and making trades to get Philip Buchannon and overpaying for mediocre free agents.

    They hire/fire Dom Capers who ran the Panthers into the ground.

    They hire Gary Kubiak who has never had a head coaching offer in his career despite being surrounded by some of the best football minds. Heck, since he went to A&M, once again a good PR move.

    Now they've decided against what everyone wants because it's not about a popularity contest (unless it's David Carr All American boy) and drafts a DE who at best is on par with the most dynamic player in the last 10 years.

    Ive now realized Bob McNair is Bud Adams with a better image.

    Meanwhile, Bud Adams has full faith and confidence in the greatest football player in UT history (perhaps college history). And since I will always consider my fellow UT alums as my brothers and sisters....

    hello Titans.
     
  10. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I never hated Bud Adams for what he did, he even was willing to throw his own money into the ring to keep the Oilers in Houston.

    Do you think if he had Reliant stadium he would have left?

    Nope.

    I saw it for what it was, strictly business, and the city leaders of Houston failed to notice the dynamic had changed, and ended up costing the tax payers of Houston THREE TIMES the money to get a new team.

    With......LOUSY leadership, at QB and in the head office.

    ;)

    DD
     
  11. ima_drummer2k

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    I agree and I pulled for Texas too even though I didn't go there. My reason was because I'm a big fan of Texas high school football. I don't think it's right that a team from Texas hasn't won a NC in 35 years even though we have the best high school football in the country IMO. This was a fun season to watch because the man who finally righted this wrong was a Houston kid.

    But it's different for me once these kids go pro. Something changes. It's just not the same anymore. It's not that kid we've been watching for 4 years anymore. Intead, it's just another spoiled professional athlete making millions of dollars.

    I don't know, maybe I'm jaded by how much money professional athletes make nowadays. I can't really relate to them anymore like I did when they were in high school or college, unless they're playing for MY team.

    I just can't understand supporting certain teams because of certain players. I support players because of the team they play on, not the other way around.
     
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    Actually a long time ago I was mainly a fan of the Cowboys. But after Dorsett, and Laundry left, they didn't retire Drew Pearson's number or Tony Dorsett's number I grew to hate the cowbowys.

    I used to love the Oilers as well more for the novelty of Bum Phillips, and the Tyler Rose, and all the great Luv Ya Blue stuff. Then when I hated the cowbows, the oilers were my number one team.

    The Oilers left town and about the same time the NFL in general were just unwatchable. There would be a celebration after routine tackles ten times per game, and it became almost WWF style in terms of meaningless showmanship.

    I thought that if the Texans drafted Young, I might start watching pro-football again, but now I won't watch it, and will half-heartedly wish the Titans well.
     
  13. Vengeance

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    I was never really an Oilers fan -- they left about three years after I moved to Houston, so I never developed any sort of loyalty to them. Before the Texans showed up, I was a Detroit Lions fan (for no good reason), and then when the Texans arrived, I started to follow them as my #1.

    You are 100% correct SamFisher -- the team has done nothing to endear itself to me. The only reason I became a Texans fan is because they happened to be a team from the city I lived in. It's not like they've got an exciting style of play, dynamic players, interesting personalities, or anything to keep me as a fan. On top of that, they've never won anything, except one game against the Dallas Cowboys.

    Without any of these things, the only thing keeping me as a fan is that I used to live in Houston, and I used to be a season ticket holder. With VY, I would've been re-energized as a Houston Texans fan. But without him, I don't have any reason to be loyal. That's why I've moved over to the Steelers -- the team has a winning history, interesting personalities, exciting players, and most of all -- I have an emotional connection to the team that I don't get from the Texans. With VY it would've been Texans 1, Steelers 2, but without him, it's Steelers 1, Texans 2.
     
  14. Nick

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    The city was willing to build a stadium... they just weren't willing to build one for Bud Adams (per an NFL insider I spoke with extensively about this subject).

    If Bud hadn't made threats almost every other year (while the city was selling out the stadium for him), if Bud hadn't demanded (and received) the rennovation to the Astrodome (that the city is STILL paying for), if Bud hadn't been an overall idiot of an owner that had no PR skills whatsoever, the Oilers would be here playing in a new downtown domed stadium.

    He made his decision to move to hicksville, and he's currently stuck with one of the worst stadium leases in the league, and he's still doing nothing but aggravating city officials that have basically given him anything he wants.

    He's never going to change... and even if you can't see it, the city of Houston is better off to still have a team, and not have him be in charge of it.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Nick,

    Bud had a horrible deal with the Astrodome, it was a crap place to watch the game, the landscape changed, and he wanted what ever other owner was going to get.

    I will not argue he was a PR nightmare, and I think you are right about the city not wanting to build it for Bud.

    That, IMHO, was shortisighted, it cost the city THREE TIMES the money to get a new franchise......and that is just bad leadership.

    Bud brought Houston pro football, he gave the city it's first professional sports franchise, but people only remember that he wanted a new stadium or he was going to move.

    And Drayton helped him out the door, by saying that the Astrodome was a great place to play, but then less than a year after the Oilers left he was crying for a new ball park too.

    I think Bud gets unfairly criticized, I think it was equal parts Bud, equal parts Bob Lanier....just one big good ole boy pissing match.

    And the city and the fans both lost.

    DD
     
  16. Nick

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    Honestly, they never should have given in and rennovated the Astrodome that first time. Bud was making threats to move to Jacksonville, and the city reacted and gave him what he wanted.

    That was stupid... and it set the stage for said "pissing contest" when Bud started whining again. Give the city credit... they told Bud to go to hell with the mindset that they'd get another team. (even though was almost "blind luck" that LA couldn't get their s*** together after two years, and Houston got the team).

    They may have ended up spending more in the end... but they also got a better owner, and a better stadium (the "bud-dome" was short-sighted, and would probably be outdated by today's stadium standards... think new comiskey).


    Drayton was a big culprit... and it wasn't like the stadium deal passed by an overwhelming margin. The bottom line was that the city itself was pretty upset at greedy owners trying to extort money for stadiums that they saw most of the revenue.

    I know we all enjoy the new stadiums now, but its scary to realize just how close the referendum was to not passing... and how we might be without any teams at all right now (instead of having three financially sound teams, with buildings that are the envy of all other teams).
     
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    Excellent point. We are so lucky that we have three new stadiums - each vote squeeked by. This town could have been a sports wasteland for the next 20 years. Also, it was a miracle that we got the Texans. We had to have 5 long shot things fall in place for us to get another NFL team, including LA completely falling on their face. Also, if Bob McNair was not so well respected by the owners, we would not have been awarded the franchise.

    I was never a big Mayor Brown fan, but he did play a role in saving all three of our teams and building three new stadiums, so I will be eternally grateful for that. All Lanier ever did was help run the Oilers out of town. Also, Ken Lay probably ruined a lot of lives, but if it was not for him saying the stadium had to be downtown and throwing a lot of Enron money the Astros' way, the Astros would probably be in Northern Virginia right now.
     
  18. Nick

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    Perhaps the fans who are ready to abandon the Texans alltogether after the draft need a little refresher.

    Give me a laughing-stock NFL team with the potential to imrprove (ie - a wealthy owner, and good stadium situation so that finances aren't an issue) any day over a city with nothing.
     
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    the stadium that Bud got in Nashville.. sure isn't even a fraction of the quality of Reliant Stadium
     
  20. firecat

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    I won't be a Titans fan like I so badly want to be a Texans fan. I was a huge Oilers fan and I can't imagine a way that I can become a Texans fan the same way. Like has been said many times, they have done nothing (except the Cowboys game) to endear themselves to me. I have lots of Texans gear, but I don't find myself setting the alarm clock to see the kickoff on their games. Even still, I'm not upset at all if I miss watching the whole game. In Oilers days, I would feel sick to my stomach if I overslept and missed part of the game.

    Being a Longhorn, I will follow the Titans closely and I hope the best for Vince Young. Mostly, I can't wait to see how his talents translate to the NFL. Had he gone to the Texans, I would wake up every day and read about every little piece of info I can get about the team, but now, I'll just follow the scores of the games and hope they do well enough to earn my interest. I hate that it's that way, but I can't fake that I'm a die hard fan when I'm not yet.

    The funny thing is that I'm a die hard fan for the Longhorns since I first started school there in '92. Back then, they weren't very good, but it was a very endearing team. Of course college ball is a different game, but the effort seemed there to put an exciting team on the field. Mack Brown came along and really changed everything with his superb recruiting so it's nice to see a reward for the many years of being a die-hard fan.

    I had come to accept that we wouldn't take VY and I thought that was a good decision, even though in my heart I wanted him to be a Texan so that I could become a true die-hard fan. At least with Bush, I was excited to have such a dynamic player to bring my interest into watching each game. Now it breaks my heart that they've even taken that away from me. Mario Williams better turn into one hell of a player or else I'll just be that much further alienated by the team.
     

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