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How long will it take for Adelman's new system to catch on?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Humer, May 22, 2007.

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  1. Humer

    Humer Member

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    RA will institue a lot more motion in our offense. theoretically he will be a master of maximizing the abilities of his players and design plays to work to their strengths. All told, doesn't sound like he'll carry over a lot from JVG's reign. So how long will our team take to learn and then master this new system.

    Will we be up and down the first half of the season, winning some games just by the natural abilities of our players. And then by the break they really start to get the feel for what RA is asking them to do? Or will it take a year or two before it starts to click?

    Inquiring minds want to know.

    Of course this is taking for granted that we'll be able to trade for Bibby, KG, Amare, and Billups in the offseason ;)

    -Humer
     
  2. Nick

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    It took a year and a half for JVG to re-do the roster, and get his system working at a high level.

    Last time, they needed a go-to guy (and got T-mac)... now, they need the role players. Theoretically, it should be easier to acquire these guys... but it all depends on what our GM can do.
     
  3. smoothie

    smoothie Jabari Jungle

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    excellent point. it took about 20 games under JVG before we started to see results...just an adjustment period. after re-doing the roster he then had his system working at a high level (as you put it).

    this time around we have a whole summer for RA to makes some moves. infact i would argue that some of our role players will be more important to RA than they were to JVG.

    hayes and howard's interior passing skills will make them valuable to RA. rafer and billy's ability to drive and create will be very valuable.

    what RA should be looking for is a f/c who can score a little for when we want to go small/quick with yao out or put him next to yao for added rebounds and defense. then look to add a sg/sf who can really score the ball off the bench. chris mihm and mopete come to mind as excellent fits.
     
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    I'd think pretty soon.. RA got results quickly in SAC. The Rockets main guys seem to be quick learners, too.
     
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    I may strech a bit here... but is the Princeton Offence a bit similar to what the Greek team is playing? Lots of cuts and ball movement? Maybe VSpan will fit better here...
     
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    It'll probably take less time than VG. NBA players have to be coerced into subjugating their entire game for team defense. The vast majority of them enthusiastically embrace learning offense.
     
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    They'll catch on quickly. Say what you want about them, but Yao, T-Mac, Battier, Rafer, Juwan, and Hayes are all very high basketball IQ guys, coachable, and quick studies. Head's role won't change, so there won't be much to learn. The rest, who knows?
     
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    4-5 years until he has a talk with Les and then "retires" after coming down with Avian Flu.
     
  10. smoothie

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    we'll have 2 championships by then. adleman won't need an excuse to retire. he'll go out on top.
     
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    We need a quality point, which we currently don't have. Who are we going to get? We need a long, young, athletic PF. From where? We need a long, athletic 2 guard. Where is he? I think Adelman can do well in Houston. If he has the players. Will we get them?
     
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    Can we not say all NBA coaches to better with better players. Bibby is not walking away from 20M dollars, so he is not signing here.
     
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    i like smoothie's idea of getting mopete, but i don't know if he's attainable.

    mihm, i don't think mihm is that good.

    yeah, alston's good, but we should probably try to get a better point to share time with alston. don't know if that's possible.

    A 4! lol..novak :p But seriously, we need to get a 4.

    a good 4, versatile wing player, and another good point.
     
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    Kinda....The greek team is a bit of a special case....They tend to start off similar to the princeton offense with the 4 guys behind the arc and the center at the top of the key, but don't pass it around as much (although a lot). Also they don't really rely on backdoor passes but more on the pick'n'roll to get into good positions...

    The thing is the greek team usually plays with 3 guards (sometimes 4)... Normally 2 PG/Combo guards and a SG (Papaloukas, Diamantidis, Spanoulis, Zisis, Chatzivrettas) so they almost always have the mismatch by default on one position. Thats where they get the penetration from.

    This is obviously a disadvantage on the other end but those guards play really pesky defense and that's why greece doesn't really rely on a very typical Center but more of agile PFs at the C position in order to be able to get help defense quicker....

    Panathinaikos plays a very similar way with ex-grizzlies PF Mike Batiste getting the majority of the C minutes
     
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    I won't even say what just happened to DaDakota reading that.
     
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    People forget that the gap between us and the contenders is pretty wide. We're not just one player away.

    First we have to close the gap to become a second round team, and then a contender.
     
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    My thoughts exactly. But, wouldn't it be something if he proves that most of the players are already present. What if VSpan flourishes, Bonzi is reborn, Novak blossoms, and Synder suddenly starts shooting well. That would be something. Even better if Yao finally gets it and TMac reclaims his jump shoot. Since we are fantasizing, how about Bibby and Artest coming to the Rockets. Keep hope alive!
     
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    well in a game that relies on a 9 man rotation and a coach (10 pieces in total) one or two players make a huge difference.

    i will agree that we aren't just one piece away. i would argue that we are 2 good pieces away. one piece would be another perimeter scorer. another would be a f/c who can defend and score a little. he would play C for a small quick lineup or PF for a big defensive lineup.

    i also think those pieces can be added to our team this summer. maybe after some playoff success the team will be ready to make a charge at the title the year after next.

    hopefully.
     
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    How long will it take for Adelman's new system to catch on?

    2 months
     

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