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How is our PFs stack up against formidable West's big guys?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Bleeding Red, Feb 26, 2008.

  1. Bleeding Red

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    Lakers- Gasol when Bynum get back
    SA- TD
    Utah- Boozer
    PHX- Stoudemire
    NO- West
    Mavs- Dirk
    Denver- K. Martin/ Nene
    GS- Al Harrington

    Can our rookies PF Scola and Landry compete with these bigs or will it be a weakness that opponents looking to exploit in playoff?
     
  2. Classic

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    I believe they will do just fine. You're forgetting that Yao>any west center.
    Let's look at games vs. Chicago and New Orleans.

    New Orleans played Yao one on one. What does Yao do? Go off of course!

    Chicago decides to double team and what does Scola/Landry do? Go off of course! Minus Landry's free throws we get the same production from our PF's in the Chi game that we got from Yao in the NO game.

    Our PF's will keep punishing teams that double Yao. With the addition of Bobby Jackson, this team really has no weaknesses; only matchup problems.
     
  3. Dave_78

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    I think our PF by committee will hold it's own. Don't forget Hayes because his role will increase in the playoffs IMO.

    I'm not worried about opposing PFs at all. Last season Boozer torched us because we only had 1 guy (Hayes) who can guard mobile PFs. That isn't so this season. Now I don't believe Scola and Landry will be more than decent defenders this post season but they certainly will be better than Yao at guarding guys on the perimeter. That isn't a knock on Yao but a 7'6" dude should never be guarding anyone more than 12 feet from the basket. Just for kicks let's say we had Scola last season. There is no doubt in my mind we would have advanced past the Utah and in less than 7 games too.

    I don't want to get too crazy here but having so many different looks at PF gives us a bit of an advantage over teams who just have one guy who is very good. How would you like to be a PF and have to deal with Chuck digging you out of the block one minute only to have Scola faking you out of your shoes on the other end of the court the next minute and right when you think you have adjusted you have Carl Landry blowing by you and throwing one down on your head.
     
  4. RasaqBoi

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    Duncan, Boozer will do damage on anyone. Stoudamire can be contained if you keep him away from the basket.

    The rest of the bunch im not too worried about.
     
  5. HotRocket

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    Don't forget Hayes.

    He's a very good defender, and during the right stretches, he can come in and cause the other team's big guys fits. Heck, we even have Battier or Tmac that can move over to that position in right situation.

    This team is built to stop just about any team.
     
  6. ibm

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    i figure our 3 pf's by committee will do just fine. other teams may have a formidable 4, but their backups usually drop off quite a bit. ours don't. our energy level at the 4 is like an ever-running engine that runs a full 48 minutes. few western teams can say that. the 4 position is not our weakness any more. it actually gives a lot of teams headache.
     
  7. ClutchCityReturns

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    That's a good point.

    All 3 of our PF's are non-stop energy and hustle type players. No matter who they go up against, it seems inevitable that they're going to tire them out eventually. There's just no time to rest when you're matched up with those 3 guys one after the other.
     
  8. London'sBurning

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    Not saying there are any similarities between the championship Bulls and this Rockets squad but they had a 3 headed monster center by committee lineup during Jordan's second 3 peat run. None of them were great players by any means but they could each grab about 5 boards and 5 points a night. 15/15 or so while Rodman would pull down at least a good 13 on average.

    Our PF by committee is actually much better than that 3 headed monster the Bulls had. We have better scorers and you can actually run plays through Scola successfully on off nights when Yao is fatigued. Our PFs now that Hayes is playing limited minutes also stretch out the court for more slashing and penetration, and give Yao extra space to work around the basket less unscathed. As long as the PFs keep doing what they're doing now, it doesn't matter whether they edge out their competition. It only matters if they can at least match them somewhat and neutralize their impact.
     
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    I am worry about the size of our players, especially when Yao has foul trouble, imagine if we faces Lakers and how Bynum Gasol and Odom combination will damage our lineup
     
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    You are worry too much grasshopper. We have the almighty Deke who will shut down Bynum if Yao gets into foul trouble. T-mac can defend Odom and let Scola/Landry/Hayes have at Gasol.
     
  11. apocclass

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    i worry about scola and landry's propensity to foul, especially in the playoffs where the many star big men of the west will get more the calls, and our big man yao doesn't seem to get as much as he should.

    but its not the individual, its our TEAM defense that will be key.
     
  12. Kim

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    In last year's playoffs, Yao mainly guarded Boozer b/c Okur plays outside...and we all know how ineffective that was. Boozer was like going for 25pts and 12 rebs and 4 dimes on 50% shooting and he beat out Yao to most close loose balls b/c he's too mobile for Yao to box out.

    I really don't know what the Rockets should do defensively if they play Utah again. Hayes was fine on Okur. Scola and Landry should be okay too and they'll give some help on the offensive side. Hayes is the faster D rotator though, but Utah was so good at spreading the floor that Hayes was not able to help out Yao enough.
     
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    Denver's Nene is done, I heard he got cancer, no?
     
  14. Vainqueur

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    This position PF has been improved a lot, although both Carl and Scola still cannot mathch with those superstars in west conference, Paul Gasol, David West, Tim Duncan, Dirk and Amare Stoudemire. However, they have contributed enough support to Yao. Those guys don't have a pain partner as powerful as Yao.
     
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    First response was dead on...

    Yao>>>>>>> than any west, or east, center.
     
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    we have no any excuse to worry
    they should worry about us now
     
  17. YnMDynasty

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    Deke can not guard Bynum even 1 min, definitely! I think Rox need another big man other than Deke if they want to roll over Lakers.

    Besides, I do not think Scola/Landry/Hayes can stop Gasol. And also, I do not think Battier can guard Kobe one-on-one, but to some extent, Odom can guard Tracy. That's another problem.

    Since Rox got Jackson, I can say that Alston+Jackson would be better than Fisher+Farmer.
     
  18. blender

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    An obvious point but the big difference from last year is that we have PFs that can do some damage on the offensive side. Guys like Nowitski, Stoudamire and Boozer will get their points, but the goal is to make them work both offensively and defensively, which Scola and Landry can do. This will make it easier for Yao as well.

    As another poster said, if our bigs can keep out of early foul trouble, we should be able to compete with any team.
     
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    the same title:How is west's Cs stack up against formidable Rocket's big guy?
     
  20. Pass 1st shoot 2nd

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    I agree with you. You can see in pickup games that if a low calibre offensive player is able to shut down a scorer or limit his production that the offensive abilities of the other four players can win games. Hayes can limit the effectiveness of any of the PFs that were listed in the first post. Or, we could offset the production of those PFs with our PF tandem. Look at who backs up those other PFs. People used to mock the Bulls over the Perdue/Wennington tandem, but their 48 minute combined stats were pretty good. And don't forget the Rodman/Kukoc tandem. You simply don't need an allstar at every position in order to win.
     
    #20 Pass 1st shoot 2nd, Feb 26, 2008
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