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HOw does one go from "Getting Married, living together, status to...

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by HOOP-T, Jan 18, 2004.

  1. HOOP-T

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    ...living apart, just dating status? Me and my girlie have been talking, planning, setting appts., ring shopping, the whole bit. Now, she decided yesterday that she could no longer live in my house (she has a house in the city, mine in the suburbs) because of the location, and she decided she was no longer interested in talking marriage. We just got back from a family visit to Orlando to meet the rest of her family that I had not met - and she and the family were ALL welcoming me to the family, etc.

    So she tells me that yes, the goal is still to work towards a marriage. Yes, she loves me, yes she still wants to be together....blah blah blah.

    So I am thinking to myself this morning, after she moved out at 3 am, and I think I am leaning towards stepping WAY back here. To give you an idea of some background, she's done this "dangling of the carrot" routine before. She's all into getting married, being a family, blah blah blah......then two weeks later, a month later, whatever - I get the Charlie Brown football trick played on me.

    To complicate things, I have a 7 year old daughter. My girlie and my daughter get along so great!!!! However, I am a little mystified that she did not even consider the effect on my little one. My daughter loves her, and this is going to hurt. I figured she would speak with her, but I guess that's on me now.

    Is it time for tough love? Do I step back and let her hang out to dry for a while so she can figure out what the hell she wants?

    Am I crazy?

    What am I doing with my life?

    I am actively looking for a new career opportunity too, so please hire me.

    Thanks all.......
     
  2. RunninRaven

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    I couldn't tell you what to do...I'm bad about advice like that. But to me, this smacks of her being observing, if not directly being presented with, another option than you. Perhaps things are going great with you, she likes the idea of marriage, wants to be together, and then one day at the supermarket a semi-attractive guy hits on her or something and, even though she might not have even responded, it could have at least gotten her thinking about the massive commitment that is marriage and she suddenly gets cold feet. Just a possibility.

    If it were me, I'd try the hang her out to dry bit and see if she ever makes up her mind.
     
  3. coma

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    Hey, is this the same girl who dropped her glass on your wood floors?

    If it is, man you sure put up with a lot of **** from this girl. It's time for tough love man, leave her be, and have her make up her mind. You don't want to get married while this girl is still trying to 'figure stuff' out. Add to that you have the emotional well-being of a 7-yr-old daughter to take care, tough love is the only answer.

    The time to seperate your heart and mind is now. Do what is best for YOUR family. If you give her the boot, she might wise up, and realize that she has someone special who loves her. You don't want someone who takes you for granted. It starts now, if she doesn't respect you and thankful for you being in her life now, married life will always be troublesome.

    Sometimes people just need a swift kick in the ass to show them what the f*ck is up.
     
  4. HOOP-T

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    Yeah coma, same girl. Yes I feel as though I put up with a lot sometimes too.....but I have also always loved her and she indeed puts up with her fair share of my bad habits too.

    Anyway, your statement about separating my mind and heart now was very powerful, and even though it saddens me to think about having to do that....I believe it is what I need to do.

    Thanks.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    If you love someone set them free, they will come back if it is meant to be.

    DD
     
  6. ima_drummer2k

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    Agree with coma.

    You can't live your life based on how you FEEL, especially when you have a daughter who is depending on you. You have to do the right thing for your daughter even if it means sacrificing feeling good for a while. You think having some flake moving in and out of her life is good for her? You think that's good role modeling for her? You need to find a woman, not some flakey little girl who likes playing house but "doesn't know what she wants right now".

    Remember, your daughter is watching and observing how you handle this...and learning...
     
  7. RIET

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    Ding Ding Ding. We have a winner.
     
  8. droxford

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    She's about to dump you - probably for another guy.

    Seen it before a bazillion times.

    Prepare yourself: if she has anything valuable of yours, ask for it back (don't do it with everything, just the stuff you really don't wanna lose). Also, take any action necessary to protect your finances and valuables (cars, credit cards, property, bank accounts, etc.).

    Also, emotionally prepare yourself for the inevitable breakup. If she has any class at all, she'll break up with you before she hooks up with some other guy. Given your symptoms, though, that usually doesn't happen.

    Sorry to break it to you. Let us know how things develop.

    -- droxford
     
  9. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Have to agree with DD here. Just let your GF decide what she wants and don't go waiting up for her. If it's meant to be, it will be.
     
  10. Faos

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    The WORST thing you can do is to try to get her to do something she doesn't want to do. If she feels "forced" to live with you she'll always be bitter about it.

    If you don't end up married you're better off breaking it off now than having to get divorced later. Just take it slow.
     
  11. pasox2

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    3 am. Hmmph.

    I bet you daughter knows what to do when her 7 yr old friends dump on her that way. Or maybe not. Maybe you should teach her.

    So, why should I hire you? What do you do?


    btw, I met a pretty vietnamese girl looking for an american boyfriend Sat.)
     
  12. faithful

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    It sounds to me like she needed some space.

    Did something happen on your trip to visit her family? Maybe a family member or friend pointed out something to her that made her question something about your relationship? It could be that she was just questioning the marriage commitment for some other reason.

    When I'm having a tough time with my wife, the only thing that gets it resolved is communication (preferably when we're both ready). In my experience with relationships, whenever I haven't tried to resolve issues, I don't always get the best results...

    Before you do the "tough love" thing, I would talk to your girlfriend and find out what's bothering her. Tell her how you feel about the situation (including the impact on your daugher) and try to figure it out. Hopefully, you've got a better relationship--worst case, you're out of the relationship, but you'll save yourself a lot of rough nights worrying about it.

    JMO
     
  13. giddyup

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    The satisfied woman.


    A store that sells husbands has just opened in Houston where a woman may go to choose a husband from among many men. The store is comprised of 6 floors, and the men increase in positive attributes as the shopper ascends the flights. There is, however, a catch. As you open the door to any floor you may choose a man from that floor, but if you go up a floor, you cannot go back down except to exit the building, and never come back.

    So a woman goes to the shopping center to find a husband.. On the first floor the sign on the door reads: Floor 1 - These men have jobs. The woman reads the sign and says to herself, "Well, that's better than my last boyfriend, but I wonder what's further up?" So up she goes.

    The second floor sign reads: Floor 2 - These men have jobs and love, kids. The woman remarks to herself, "That's great, but I wonder what's further up?" And up she goes again.

    The third floor sign reads: Floor 3 - These men have jobs, love kids and are extremely good looking. "Hmmm, better" she says. "But I wonder what's upstairs?"

    The fourth floor sign reads: Floor 4 - These men have jobs, love kids, are extremely good looking and help with the housework. "Wow!" exclaims the woman, "very tempting. BUT, there must be more further up!" And again she heads up another flight..

    The fifth floor sign reads: Floor 5 - These men have jobs, love kids, are extremely good looking, help with the housework and have a strong romantic streak. "Oh, mercy me! But just think... what must be awaiting me further on?" So up to the sixth floor she goes.

    The sixth floor sign reads: Floor 6 - You are visitor 3,456,789,012 to this floor. There are no men on this floor. This floor exists solely as proof that women are impossible to please. Thank you for shopping Husband Mart and have a nice day.
     
  14. IROC it

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    Awesome post, giddyup. I'm savin' that'n'.
     
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    Read and re-read exactly what you wrote there. Now imagine someone other than you wrote it. What would you tell that person to do?

    Now you have your answer, but don't step back. Walk away.
     
  16. Buck88

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    Hoop-T

    I know exactly what your going through. I went through a very similar situation and mine didn't work out. My advise it to walk away. I know you won't becuase I couldn't. In my experience, and your COULD be different, she just was not ready to commit. Funny thing is she was the one pushing for marriage. And once I started to become receptive to the idea she started with the whole "I've never been alone before, and I have to see if I can make it alone". She didn't want to break-up either but rather see other people. IMO, it's just an easy way to let you down without her having to break-up with you, but rather push you away where you will get fed-up with the situation and you'll call things off.
     
  17. Beck

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    I think she needs to decide what she wants. Maybe you could play this game with her if it was just you, but your daughter is involved as well.

    If she decides she wants back in your life, then the two of you need to discuss what that means. I think she needs to be upfront with her intentions. If she is looking to date, and have fun, but not settle down, she should tell you that. She owes you that.
     
  18. HOOP-T

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    It is much more similar than you probably thought then. She was the one also asking about marriage, pulling me into jewelry stores, talking dates, places, asking me how long was too long to wait for a proposal.

    Well, I ignored her all day yesterday, watched football, and looked at myself in the mirror and decided I was going to get used to the idea of sleeping alone, doing my thing, and working on some aspects of my life I had neglected to make her happy.

    She showed up at 5 pm or so, after I had ignored all her calls. She had dinner in hand, had bought me two CD's, and seemed very much concerned with me and how I was doing. But I just wasn't very into it, just wasn't very thankful for the CD's and the dinner, just felt "bought."

    Naturally, the conversation went straight to the issues at hand. I told her I needed to step away, cease all contact, no calls, no visits.......I'd handle my daughter the best I could. She got defensive, starting packing more things. Anyway, to skip to the end - she called me when she got home and I went off. She said she felt bad about hurting me, and felt bad about blah blah blah, BUT I needed to "pull it together." She needed me to support her in this decision. I thought about that through the night, and realized that this whole relationship has been about her.

    So today, I took her advice and pulled it together. She will not hear from me again. This sucks, it hurts like hell, and I am having a hard day coping at work. But each day it will get easier.
     
  19. pasox2

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    Good luck, Hoop-T.

    Stay strong, dude. Your daughter loves you.
     
  20. rrj_gamz

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    Well, all I can say is that there had to be signs that she was about to do this, but maybe you were too in love to see...I know from personal experience how hard it is to let go, but you'll always find out things happen for a reason and sometimes unanswered prayers are the best things that could have happened...

    I feel for you and your daughter, but you have to emotionally prepare yourself and your daughter for this...Maybe she's not ready for an instant family or whatever, but remember its her loss, not yours...

    Keep up your chin...
     

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