On a Scale of 1 to 10 1 - being ineffective 10 - being most effective Overall Rebounding Offensive Rebounding Defensive Rebounding Overall Defense Individual Defense Team Defense Overall Offense Individual Offense Team Offense These are the Basis of my Criteria in judging players So! . . If you don't mind. . . using the 9 catergories . .. and the 1 - 10 scale Where do you see our rocket players rating in these categories Rocket River
RR, 9 different categories??? this thread really makes my head hurt so I'm just gonna sit back and let some of the newbies here figure out all these ratings and then I might scold some of them later on to explain where they're completely wrong and what not.
Reb. Yao 7.5 Artest- 7 Scola- 10 Brooks- 3 Off. Reb. 7 7 10 3 Def. Reb. 8 7 10 3 Overall D 8 10 9 5.5 Ind. D 8 10 8.5 5 Team D 8.5 10 9 6 Over. O 10 9 8.5 8.5 Ind. O 10 9.5 8.5 8.5 Team O 9.5 9 8.5 8.5
Yao Scola Landry Mutombo Hayes Overall Rebounding 8 8 7 9 8 Offensive Rebounding 7 8 7 9 8 Defensive Rebounding 9 8 7 9 8 Overall Defense 8 7 6 7 8 Individual Defense 9 7 6 8 9 Team Defense 7 7 6 6 7 Overall Offense 9 8 7 3 3 Individual Offense 9 8 6 3 1 Team Offense 9 8 8 3 5 Tmac Artest Battier Brooks Head Wafer Barry Overall Rebounding 5 6 6 2 2 2 3 Offensive Rebounding 4 5 5 1 1 1 2 Defensive Rebounding 6 7 7 3 3 3 4 Overall Defense 6 9 9 6 4 4 5 Individual Defense 7 9 8 6 3 3 5 Team Defense 5 9 10 6 5 5 5 Overall Offense 7 7 6 7 5 7 6 Individual Offense 8 7 5 6 5 8 5 Team Offense 6 7 7 8 5 6 7
<TABLE BORDER CELLPADDING=3> <COL> <COL ALIGN=RIGHT> <COL STYLE="color:red"> <TR> <TH>Category</TH> <TH>TMAC</TH> <TH>ARTEST</TH> </TR> <TR> <TD>Overall Rebounding</TD> <TD>5</TD> <TD>5</TD> </TR> <TR> <TD>Offensive Rebounding </TD> <TD>5</TD> <TD>5</TD> </TR> <TR> <TD>Defensive Rebounding </TD> <TD>5</TD> <TD>6</TD> </TR> <TR> <TD>Overall Defense</TD> <TD>5</TD> <TD>9</TD> </TR> <TR> <TD>Individual Defense </TD> <TD>5</TD> <TD>10</TD> </TR> <TR> <TD>Team Defense </TD> <TD>6</TD> <TD>9</TD> </TR> <TR> <TD>Overall Offense</TD> <TD>9</TD> <TD>7</TD> </TR> <TR> <TD>Individual Offense </TD> <TD>10</TD> <TD>7</TD> </TR> <TR> <TD>Team Offense </TD> <TD>6</TD> <TD>8</TD> </TR> </TABLE> This ends up with TMAC being Overal a 6.2 Artest with a 7.3 Please let me know where I have OVERRATED RON and UNDERRATED TMac? Rocket River
wow McGrady a 5 for offensive rebounding hmmm I don't know about that one. I would say a 2 or 3 not no 5
<TABLE BORDER CELLPADDING=3> <COL> <COL ALIGN=RIGHT> <COL STYLE="color:red"> <TR> <TH>Category</TH> <TH>YAO</TH> <TH>SCOLA</TH> </TR> <TR> <TD>Overall Rebounding</TD> <TD>5</TD> <TD>7</TD> </TR> <TR> <TD>Offensive Rebounding </TD> <TD>5</TD> <TD>7</TD> </TR> <TR> <TD>Defensive Rebounding </TD> <TD>5</TD> <TD>7</TD> </TR> <TR> <TD>Overall Defense</TD> <TD>7</TD> <TD>5</TD> </TR> <TR> <TD>Individual Defense </TD> <TD>6</TD> <TD>6</TD> </TR> <TR> <TD>Team Defense </TD> <TD>8</TD> <TD>5</TD> </TR> <TR> <TD>Overall Offense</TD> <TD>9</TD> <TD>6</TD> </TR> <TR> <TD>Individual Offense </TD> <TD>10</TD> <TD>6</TD> </TR> <TR> <TD>Team Offense </TD> <TD>9</TD> <TD>6</TD> </TR> </TABLE> Yao is an Average rebounded. His defense is above average but not off the charts his Offense I have no real problem with. more agressions would put him over Score: 7.1 Scola is an Above Average rebounder and seems to be moving toward an Elite Rebounder His individual defense is credible but could be better. His Team Defense is average. His Offense is still improving. I think he is above average but could be better. Score: 6.1 Rocket River
I think I might lower Yao's overall team offense due to his trouble with double teams. I'd swap Scola's individual and team def scores, or at least have them equal.
I've seen McGrady play in the 7 and 8's defensively, but if you take his career as a whole, yeah looks about right.
I found it extremely difficult to rate some players with a mere number, like Aaron Brooks and Kyle Lowry for example. Offensively, Lowry might be able to penetrate better than Aaron, but Lowry doesn't have a shot behind the arch. Plus, how can you accurately rate someone's rebounding ability if, as backcourt players, their job isn't centered around getting rebounds? Plus Rocket River, I didn't quite understand what your "team" ratings meant: how the individual player makes players around him play for better or worse? Or how players around around the individual make him play? Oh well, I just did it for fun.
Ron Artest a 8 on Team offense? Sorry, but if Artest was in the situation of McGrady right now, that would apparently be the opposite of you because T-Mac can play exactly how Artest plays on offense right now.
