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How do the Texans have to finish for Kubiak to keep his job? (Poll)

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by Brando2101, Nov 30, 2009.

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How do the Texans have to finish for Kubiak to keep his job?

  1. At least 5 wins

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  2. At least 6 wins

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  3. At least 7 wins

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  4. At least 8 wins

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  5. At least 9 wins

    45.7%
  6. At least 10 wins

    43.8%
  1. Brando2101

    Brando2101 Member

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    Sorry guys for another Fire Kubiak poll. Just wanted to get everyone's thoughts on it organized in a poll.


    I think if they lose next week, fire him there and see what someone else can do for the rest of the season.


    Bring in a coach that has been around the block even if he was fired last time around. We don't need a genius. We need a guy that knows what to say in all the usual situations. How to keep a team in the game or mentally prepare them for the next game. A guy that doesn't always say it's on me and holds his players responsible etc. Kubiak will be a good coach later bc he will have learned from all his mistakes with the Texans. We don't need to rebuild or change this team.

    Keep Rick Smith since the players are good and the talent is there. Keep frank bush and even little Shanahan if he wants to stay since the offense is running well.

    The only way Kubiak should keep his job is if the texans win their last 5 games and finish 10-6. That is a legit improvement on the last 2 years. Another 8-8 year and even 9-7 shouldn't be good enough.

    No need to make long posts if you don't want to. Just like to see everyone vote.
     
    #1 Brando2101, Nov 30, 2009
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  2. A_3PO

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    10-6 keeps his job. 9-7 isn't good enough for me. 8-8 or worse and he obviously has to go. Which Texans team will show up next week in Jacksonville?

    This season's disappointment came down to a few plays:

    1 Chris Brown's goal-line fumble against the Jags
    2 The Texans failure to score from the 1-yard line against the Cards in 2 or 3 chances. Which wouldn't have been necessary except for...
    3 Matt Schaub's pick-6 that blew the comeback against the Cards and put them back in the hole. The Texans should have won that game against a team that totally collapsed, but they pulled defeat from the jaws of victory.
    4 Kris Brown's missed FG in Indianapolis
    5 Kris Brown's missed FG against the Titans
    6 Today's loss didn't come down to one play, but a 28-zip 2nd half meltdown deserves mention.

    Four years of Kubiak is long enough. He's had his chance and it's time to move on.
     
  3. shsu33

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    This team is better than a 5-6 record they have to show. We have missed out on 4 OT's in our 6 losses! 2009 has been a bad year to k/chris browns and we have two of them. When a team has talent and is not pulling out close games the blame has to start with its management so its not going to surprise me if Kub gets the ax. I'd like to see the Texans get 9 or 10 and he can have another chance. Anything less then I think we should move on and get someone that will give them a spark. With the money McNair will spend and the talent they have the Texans should land a really good coach
     
  4. david12sfa

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    The season is not lost yet! If they win next week it is very possible that they roll off 4 wins in a row. A 5th win is also very possible with getting New England at home on the last week of the season and hopefully they have nothing to play for. If the Texans show up this coming week they should win 4 in a row getting to 9 wins and we will see about the Pats game. I believe that 9 wins combined with how they lost 3 of the games will save Coach K's job. 8-8 and he is gone. On an other note, if coach K is gone everyone is so set on Cowher, but would Holmgren(sp) be a better fit?
     
  5. emjohn

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    9 wins and I'm willing to consider it - in my opinion, it's Cowher or bust and I would be crushed if we flipped Kubiak for an out of touch has-been like Holmgren.

    But honestly, we'd have to run the table with 10 wins for me to reconsider my thoughts on Kubiak, namely that he's not going to be able to light a fire under this team and get the best out of them for more than a couple quarters at a time.
     
  6. Smokey

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    Capers got 4 years. Why does Kubiak deserve 5? It's not like the team is getting better record wise. The team is better talent wise than it ever was under Capers.
     
  7. MadMax

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    9 wins.

    they can't sell 8-8 again.
     
  8. rockets934life

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    9-7 and do it looking good...if they beat St Louis, Seattle and NE(with nothing on the line) should not be something to hang your hat on...so they need to win and win impressivly at JAX or Miami, however if Cowher says he is interested then you still make move and upgrade but otherwise 9-7 saves his job for now.
     
  9. david12sfa

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    I am with you on the first three games, but anytime you when on the road against those two teams by one point or 14 it is impressive.
     
  10. rockets934life

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    Agree, meant more like going up 17-0 and then losing the lead with alot of dumb penalities and turnovers but eventually pulling it out. If they perform like the Bengals game then I'd be fine or even a hard fought close victory but if they escape despite themselves then it should only magnify the teams issues.
     
  11. ima_drummer2k

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    I don't think the record matters at all. It's playoffs or pink slip for Kubiak.

    If he goes 10-6 and misses the playoffs, he's gone. If he goes 8-8 and makes the playoffs, he stays.
     
  12. RocketManJosh

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    To me, 9 wins is going to be the mark only because that means they will have finished the season strong at 4-1. If they win the last 5 games (10-6) there is no way he loses his job.

    To me, the real question needs to be how many 4th quarter choke jobs before we start looking for a new quarterback because right now I am not sure it matters who the coach is.
     
  13. emjohn

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    The team has taken a serious stride forward under Kubiak.
    Capers era: 18 wins over 4 seasons
    Kubiak got us 22 wins in his first 3.

    My issues are that Kubiak's inability to motivate the team to play to its potential with consistency for 60 minutes - that alone has left a bucket of wins on the field in his time here, most glaringly this year and last. That this year's squad has not been able to take a step forward after last year is alarming. The defense has gotten much better but the offense has regressed in some areas.

    The Texans are on the cusp of taking their next step (playoffs). My faith in Kubiak taking them there is nonexistent.
     
  14. david12sfa

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    This is just my opinion, but if they finish 9-7 or better with the youngest team in the NFL, losing half their offensive line and the best TE in the league, I will be ok with that. Excluding yesterday's game they are not getting blown out and are in games to the final play. The team has players that are going to stick around and mature, they will start to finish games. If they draft well this year and maybe get another defensive free agent at tackle the defensive can be an elite squad.
     
  15. rockets934life

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    Schaub had a HORRIBLE 2nd half yesterday and has made some mistakes(e.g. Cards pick 6/Dressen overthrow and the interception late in Indy, although might not have been all his fault) but he is not an issue. He has constantly put the team in position to tie late in ball games and appears to be over his injury bug crap. No one points out the dude drove down with very little time in both the Indy game and Tennessee game to setup up Brown with VERY managable FG tries.
     
  16. DaDakota

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    If they get to 9, and make the playoffs he keeps his gig, if they get to 9 and miss the playoffs it is 50/50 I think.

    DD
     
  17. justtxyank

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    That's crazy. So you basically are saying your decision to fire or keep him has nothing to do with how well the team plays but rather how well the rest of the league plays? Silliness.

    For me personally, there is nothing they can do down this meaningless stretch that should save his job. Winning X number of games once your season is over is ridiculous. It's like September baseball. Organizations that make decisions based on September baseball usually end up paying a price. The first 11 games were the games that mattered, and unfortunately for Kubiak, he has shown the same weaknesses as a coach and the team has shown the same consistency problems.

    All that said, I think if he wins 9 games, there is no way Bob McNair fires him. Even 8-8 is tough to imagine McNair firing him to be honest.

    Edit: That said, if Cowher's people have told McNair that he wants this job, I think Kubiak is gone barring making the playoffs. I've heard before that McNair has wanted to emulate the Steeler's organization, well hiring Cowher would be a big first step. :)
     
  18. DieHard Rocket

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    I think 8 wins and he's safe for another year. I don't think Bob is going to want to pull the trigger and potentially start over (scheme-wise) without giving him every last chance.

    For me personally, 10 wins should be the only safe number to keep him here. 9 wins or less and I'm scouring the market for a new coach.
     
  19. JeopardE

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    What was sad about yesterday wasn't just that it was their 3rd straight loss (and 4th straight division loss), it was the way they lost. Same old Texans.

    If we're still seeing this exact same crap after all these years, it's time for the man to go. Winning out the season is the only way he should be allowed to hang around in my opinion.
     
  20. No Worries

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    Barring a complete meltdown, I do not see Kubiak getting fired by McNair.

    As a fan, I expect more. This team has not by any means overachieved. If anything, they have underachieve. That goes against the coach.

    Despite their record, I think that the Texans have made improvements. Their depleted OL is picking up the blitz much better this year. Their D has at times played very well.

    But the Texans are still two drafts away from becoming an elite team. It will be a race to see if Kubiak can last that long.
     

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